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Vol. 622 No. 3       Tuesday, 27 June 2006

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Collapse  Ceisteanna — Questions.

 Expand Interdepartmental Committees.

Expand  Priority Questions.

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Expand  Adjournment Debate Matters.

Expand  Leaders’ Questions.

Expand  Requests to move Adjournment of Dáil under Standing Order 31.

Expand  Business of Dáil.

Expand  Order of Business.

Expand  Estimates for Public Services 2006: Leave to Introduce.

Expand  Estimates for Public Services 2006: Referral to Select Committee.

Expand  Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Order for Report Stage.

Expand  Criminal Justice Bill 2004: Report Stage.

Expand  Private Members’ Business.

Collapse  Criminal Law (Home Defence) Bill 2006: Second Stage.

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  I move: “That the Bill be now read a Second Time.”+

Expand An Leas-Cheann Comhairle: Information Zoom  Is that agreed? Agreed.

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  I am delighted to introduce the Criminal Law (Home Defence) Bill on behalf of  ++++++++++ ++++++++++ ++++

Expand Mr. Kenny: Information Zoom  All this week we have seen from the Government what Mrs. Thatcher described as  ++++++++++ ++++++++++

Expand Mr. Deenihan: Information Zoom  I am delighted to see Senator Morrissey in the Visitors Gallery. No doubt he is  +++++++

Expand Mr. Crawford: Information Zoom  I welcome the opportunity to speak on this important legislation. Figures have  +++++

Expand Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. McDowell): Information Zoom  I move amendment No. 1:++++++++

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  Yes. This is intentional.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  If this is the case, it means that in an action for damages, a trespasser  ++++++++

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  The Minister is misreading the situation.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  ——and one that most people would consider unreasonable, however  +

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  The Minister is deliberately misreading the situation.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  This is what the Deputy told us. He was clear. He intervened in my speech to  +

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  I will deal with the Minister.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  ——no civil liability would attach.

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  He is splitting hairs to try to find a way out of his predicament.

Expand Acting Chairman (Mr. McCormack): Information Zoom  The Minister without interruption.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  The Deputy is huffing and puffing. A dwelling is defined as including any  +

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  Is it because the Minister prefers his own ideas?

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  We must consider why this Bill is being cast in these terms. In contrast with  ++

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  That scenario is already covered by self-defence.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  Manslaughter is committed by any unlawful use of force resulting in the death  +

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  In this Bill.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  Yes.

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  One is already protected by the law.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  In those circumstances, this Bill is of no use to anyone. If one shoves a  +

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  Listen to the Minister. He is looking for the title of joker of the year.

Expand Mr. Howlin: Information Zoom  Pots and kettles. There are more than 400 amendments to the Minister’s  +

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  Section 6 would amend section 13 of the 1997 Act by excluding a person from an  +

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  The Minister obviously was not able to convince the Tánaiste in that  +

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  The Bill proposes that where a householder uses force to repel or prevent  ++

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Expand Mr. Howlin: Information Zoom  Will we not?

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  It will probably agree with me that in the drafting of the Bill, children fall  +

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  That is ridiculous.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  No matter how brutal or savage the force unleashed, any injury perpetrated on  ++

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  Is the Minister admitting his authorship at this stage?

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  No. I assisted Senator Morrissey with that Bill just as I assisted——

Expand Mr. Howlin: Information Zoom  The Minister did not speak to the Tánaiste about it.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  ——Senator Norris with his Bill on civil partnerships. On a number  +

Expand Mr. Howlin: Information Zoom  It surely has.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  Actually, I have a few minutes remaining. My concern is that the emotive nature  +++++

Expand Mr. Howlin: Information Zoom  Was the Minister wearing his FCA uniform?

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  No. I had to hold him at bay with a poker while my parents summoned the police.

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  The Minister should be careful. Anything he says might be taken down and used  +

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  I would have used force to prevent him doing further damage to the house  +

Expand Mr. Howlin: Information Zoom  I bet the Minister would.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  When the gardaí arrived he made a run at them and me and was dealt with  +++

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  The Minister is splitting hairs to get himself off a very big hook.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  I am not splitting any hairs but pointing out to the Deputy that his Bill does  +

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  Let the Bill progress to Committee Stage and we will iron out any difficulties  +

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  The Deputy admitted as much when challenged in the House. He said he was giving  +++

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  What a sad, pathetic defence by the Minister.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  I know that the Labour Party, which has a slightly better grasp on reality and  +

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  A sad, pathetic defence of the Minister’s position.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  The more I think about this Bill, the more convinced I am that it is a tactic,  +

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  That is very obvious.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  ——unless they see——

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  The rug is being pulled from under the Minister.

Expand Mr. McDowell: Information Zoom  ——a proposal in black and white.

Expand Mr. J. O’Keeffe: Information Zoom  The Minister will be kept on a leash from now on. That is obvious, too.


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