Requests to move Adjournment of Dáil under Standing Order 32.
Order of Business.
Private Members’ Business.
An Bille um an Ochtú Leasú is Fiche ar an mBunreacht 2008: An Dara Céim (Atógáil).
Twenty-eighth Amendment of the Constitution Bill 2008: Second Stage (Resumed).
Atairgeadh an cheist: “Go léifear an Bille an Dara hUair anois.” Question again proposed: “That the Bill be now read a Second Time.” Minister of State at the Department of the Taoiseach (Deputy Dick Roche): The main aims of the Lisbon reform treaty, as spelled out in its preamble, are +++++++ 1 o’clock Deputy Frank Feighan: I thank the Minister of State for coming to the House and making a logical and ++++++++++ ++++
Minister of State at the Department of Health and Children (Deputy Pat The Cope Gallagher): I am very pleased to participate in this very important debate on the future of ++++++++++ +++++++
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: Absolutely.
Deputy Pat The Cope Gallagher: ——being geographically North and politically South, with the ++++++
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: Hear, hear.
Deputy Pat The Cope Gallagher: Over the years we have punched above our weight and have been highly regarded + 2 o’clock Deputy Pat Breen: I am delighted to have the opportunity to speak on Second Stage of the Twenty- +++++
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: It did so by an overwhelming majority of 80% to 20%.
Deputy Pat Breen: Yes, and it is a country that has just joined the European Union. It is the ++++++++++ +
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: Absolutely.
Deputy Pat Breen: The treaty will not raise taxes because it contains no reference to a common +++++
Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Deputy Brian Lenihan): I am very happy to have the opportunity to speak on this debate on the reform +
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: I am not sure we want to go that far.
Deputy Brian Lenihan: I am surprised at the Deputy. Of course I am not suggesting that under this ++++++
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: As I was.
Deputy Brian Lenihan: However, Deputy Quinn was not a Member of the Oireachtas and was not as ++
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: Deputy Brian Lenihan is the first Fianna Fáil Minister I have ever heard +
Deputy Brian Lenihan: That is extraordinary. I must say I have a great attachment to our ancestral +
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: The European Central Bank has one working language — English.
Deputy Brian Lenihan: Yes.
Deputy Billy Timmins: Daniel O’Connell promoted the use of English in the nineteenth century.
Deputy Brian Lenihan: I could be even more heretical for a Fianna Fáil Deputy and confess that ++++++++++ +++
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: Unlike some of the Minister’s predecessors.
Deputy Brian Lenihan: Both systems have their characteristic strengths and weaknesses. Both often +++
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: I wish to share time with Deputy Ó Snodaigh.+++++++++ ++++
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Fáiltím roimh an deis páirt a ghlacadh sa ++++++ 3 o’clock Deputy Ruairí Quinn: There is no EU army.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: There is an EU army.
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: There is not.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: There is; it is called the EU battlegroup. If Deputy Quinn, like the Minister +
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: An army can go to war; the battlegroups enforce peace.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: They have gone to war.
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: They have not.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Taking sides in a conflict is going to war.
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: The Deputy is wrong.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: We know that from our history on this island; there have been wars.
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: The Deputy is simply wrong.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Ireland is now involved in a war.
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: A war?
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Yes.
Deputy Conor Lenihan: Deputy Ó Snodaigh claims to have been in a war.
Deputy Billy Timmins: Where has war been declared by Europe?
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: In Chad.
Deputy Conor Lenihan: Nobody legitimised his war.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Europe has taken the side of a Government which is at war with rebels in Chad. +
(Interruptions). Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Deputies should allow me to continue; my time is limited. Deputies are not +
Deputy Billy Timmins: Deputy Ó Snodaigh should speak the truth.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: I have spoken the truth. The Deputies are in denial.
Deputy Billy Timmins: Deputy Ó Snodaigh voted against any debate of the Bill. Why then is he +
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: I did debate the Bill.
Deputy Billy Timmins: The Deputy opposed a Second Reading of the Bill last night.
Acting Chairman (Deputy Johnny Brady): Deputies should speak through the Chair.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: I have spoken out against the Lisbon treaty at every opportunity in this House. +
Deputy Billy Timmins: The Deputy sought to have no debate on the Bill last night.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: I have spoken out about it continually at the European affairs committee. I +
Deputy Billy Timmins: Deputy Ó Snodaigh opposed a Second Reading of the Bill last night.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Do not shout me down. I will speak in this House and outside, if required. +
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: We have the triple lock.
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: Yes, I said that we will not be forced to participate but the EU, by virtue of ++
Acting Chairman: The Deputy has one minute remaining.
Deputy Ruairí Quinn: That is something the Deputy’s party should know about, they got money in +
Deputy Aengus Ó Snodaigh: That money comes from the taxpayer. The Minister is denying that this +++
Acting Chairman: I call Deputy Mansergh. The Deputy has 20 minutes.
Deputy Martin Mansergh: I welcome the Bill and the White Paper, which I look forward to studying. ++++++++++ ++++++++++
Deputy John Perry: I welcome the publication of this Bill. The Lisbon reform treaty is an outcome ++++++++++ ++
Debate adjourned. Ceisteanna — Questions.
Priority Questions.
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