Blythe, Ernest

Tuesday, 17 July 1923

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 4 No. 11

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CEIST—QUESTION. [ ORAL ANSWER. ] - BALBRIGGAN SHOOTING.

Payment in this case has already been made.More Button

On the 13th.More Button

LAND LAW (COMMISSION) BILL, 1923. - (FROM THE SEANAD.) LEASÚ ÓN SEANAD (AMENDMENT BY THE SEANAD).

I move: “That the Dáil agree with the Seanad in the said amendment.” Motion put and agreed to.More Button

[DAIL IN COMMITTEE.] - PREVENTION OF ELECTORAL ABUSES BILL, 1923.

Section 1 is the existing law except that the publication of a false statement of the withdrawal of a candidate for the purpose of promoting or procuring the election of another candidate is made a co...More Button

I accept the amendment. I think it strengthens the Clause. Amendment put and agreed to. Question: “That Section 1 as amended stand part of the Bill,” put and agreed to.More Button

Section 2 is practically the existing law except that there is a Clause preventing the inducing of voters to vote in a particular way. That was not necessary before the introduction of Proportional R...More Button

Sections 3, 4, and 5 are the existing law. Sections 3, 4, and 5 put and agreed to.More Button

In Section 6 the penalties apply to summary jurisdiction, as it was thought that there would be great certainty of conviction than trial by indictment. It provides a minimum penalty for impersonation...More Button

I accept the amendment. Amendment put and agreed to. Question: “That Section 7, as amended, stand part of the Bill,” put and agreed to.More Button

Section 8 is practically the existing law, except that there is not the maximum limit. Question: “That Section 8 stand part of the Bill,” put and agreed to.More Button

Section 9 is the existing law. Question: “That Sections 9 and 10 stand part of the Bill,” put and agreed to.More Button

Sections 11, 12, 13 and 14 are the existing law, except on Section 12 the law extends to include a Referendum and the Seanad elections. Sections 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15, put and agreed to. SECTION 16. ...More Button

I accept the amendment. Amendment put and agreed to. Motion made and question put: “That Section 16 as amended stand part of the Bill.” Agreed. Sections 17, 18, 19, 20 and 21 put and agreed to. SECTIO...More Button

I beg to move Section 22, which strengthens the existing law to some extent by forbidding the personating agent to leave the booth except with the permission of the Presiding Officer, and in compellin...More Button

In this Section is provided the machinery whereby agents may be appointed to detect and prevent personation at a referendum. It is felt that owing to the prevalence that personation has attained in t...More Button

I am sorry I cannot accept the amendment. The proposal in the amendment was set down as one of the devices that was considered when the Bill was being drawn up. It was felt from our experience in th...More Button

My information is that so far as Referenda are concerned, what checking is done is done officially, and that there is no great personation there. We feel that there is a special danger here. Amendment...More Button

I will accept the amendment, because I see that the arrangement provided in the Bill would lead to difficulties. Amendment agreed to. Section 23, as amended, agreed to.More Button

Section 24 limits the number of persons who may attend the local Seanad count. This is necessary, as if there were 45 persons, one representing each candidate, it might not be possible to accommodate...More Button

Section 25 is the existing law, except that it gives a constable power to arrest without being directed to do so. Section 25 put and agreed to.More Button

Section 26 is the existing law, but where an arrest is made by direction of the Returning Officer, without malice, it will not involve penalties, even if it turns out not to have been justified. Secti...More Button

Sections 27 to 37, inclusive, are the existing law. Sections 27 to 37, inclusive, put and agreed to.More Button

Section 38 deals with the question of a member of the Dáil sitting without having sent in any return of election expenses. The common informer penalty has been removed, and the prosecution is at the ...More Button

Section 40 provides that notice shall be published stating where a return of expenses can be inspected. Section 40 put and agreed to.More Button

Section 41 gives power to Seanad candidates to appoint election agents. Section 41 put and agreed to.More Button

Under Section 42 Seanad candidates are not given power to appoint personating agents. It was felt that if a Seanad candidate were, for instance, to appoint a personating agent or two in each of the 5...More Button

Not personating agent. Sub-section (2) says: “Nothing in this Act or in the Electoral Act, 1923, shall be deemed to authorise a candidate at a Seanad election or the agent of any such candidate to app...More Button

It expressly says he shall not appoint them.More Button

That is one of the difficulties we were up against, and we felt, on the whole, that we would let the section stand. There would be 45 candidates, and you could only have a few represented anywhere. ...More Button

To tell the truth, I was really to some extent keeping an open mind on the matter until I had heard what the Seanad itself had to say. There is just one thing about it that I did not mention. There w...More Button

Section 43 refers to the Corrupt and Illegal Practices list. It is the existing law. A list will be sent to each registration officer. Motion made and question put: “That Section 43 stand part of th...More Button

No.More Button

I will tell you how it comes there. It arose in connection with the maximum limit of expenditure which existed until it was removed by this Bill. Previously a candidate could only expend a certain a...More Button

The Representation of the People Act, 1918, Section 33, Sub-section (2), so that could simply exclude that.More Button

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No, except that it comes into the question of consolidating and amending the law relating to corrupt practices. It is a matter that had relation to the prevention of corrupt practices heretofore. Un...More Button

Would it meet the difficulty if some such phrase as “providing postage facilities for candidates,” is put in the Title?More Button

I think this is relevant to the subject matter of the Bill. This was part of the law relating to corrupt practices, and we are consolidating that law now and amending it. If it were to be introduced...More Button

I think the Section is in order as it stands. This is a Bill to amend and consolidate the law relating to the prevention of corrupt and illegal practices. We simply have taken certain sections and s...More Button

I move the First Schedule, Parts I., II., III., and IV.More Button

It is really at the table.More Button

I do not think I would interpret it just like that. I think that is the wording that has been accepted. In the Electoral Bill (Section 15 of the Fifth Schedule) it is provided that a separate room or...More Button

Very good; I will accept that. The amendment is: “In Paragraph 3 of Part I. of the First Schedule to delete “in” and to substitute “at.”More Button

In the short title of the fourth item in this Schedule, “The Corrupt and Illegal Practices Prevention Act, 1883,” the word “Practices” is left out. It is a misprint.More Button

I will get advice on that. The Bill specifically refers to Dáil Eireann and the Seanad. Question: “That the Title stand part of the Bill,” put and agreed to.More Button

COMMITTEE ON FINANCE. - ESTIMATES FOR PUBLIC SERVICES. MINISTRY OF INDUSTRY AND COMMERCE.

I beg to move: “That a sum of £193,445 be granted to complete the sum necessary to defray the charge which will come in course of payment during the year ending 31st March, 1924, for the salaries and ...More Button

I beg to move that the Committee do now Report Progress and ask leave to sit again to-morrow. [Agreed.]More Button


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