Blythe, Ernest

Thursday, 13 March 1924

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 6 No. 27

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OLD AGE PENSIONS BILL, 1924—COMMITTEE STAGE (RESUMED).

I presume that Deputy Johnson is not moving the deletion of sub-section 2. It could be deleted. I put it in because I thought it well not to make the change more drastic than we could help. People...More Button

I was assuming the Deputy was not serious in talking about penalty or punishment at all, but I want to point out that his argument would be quite pertinent if he had been moving the deletion of sub-se...More Button

I promised the Deputy that I would consider that point before Report Stage, but I have not had time since to give any attention to it. Question put: “That Section 5 stand part of the Bill.” The Commit...More Button

I am afraid it is not a very small concession, because it would apply not merely to those who rent a dwelling, but to those who are maintained by relatives or friends, and those who own the places in ...More Button

Might I point out that this, like several other of the amendments, will not in any way affect the poorest class of pensioner. It will only affect those whose means are 7/- per week. It will not affe...More Button

SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER. - PUBLIC SAFETY (PUNISHMENT OF OFFENCES) BILL, 1924—FIFTH STAGE.

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DAIL IN COMMITTEE. - OLD AGE PENSIONS BILL, 1924.—THIRD STAGE (RESUMED).

This is another amendment designed to give certain benefits and additional advantages to the old age pensioner who has means, and will not benefit the old age pensioner who has no means. I think ther...More Button

The principle of a flat pension is really fundamental to the whole administration of the Old Age Pensions Act. We have not varying pensions for different districts, and I do not see how a national s...More Button

It is not proposed to make any changes in that respect in the law. Whatever benefits or privileges are enjoyed by the pensioner will be taken into account in the future as heretofore.More Button

If a son or a daughter maintains a pensioner it is a privilege or benefit enjoyed.More Button

It has always been clear.More Button

I would be prepared to accept the amendment. Amendment agreed to.More Button

I am prepared to accept the amendment. The particular type of abuse that the clause as a whole was designed to meet is only a serious abuse when holdings of a substantial size and value are involved....More Button

I could not accept the amendment as it stands, because it would exempt from the provisions of the section holdings which ought not be exempted from it. I would undertake to consider, between this and...More Button

I think that Deputy Murphy's argument is robbed of some of its point by the fact that a previous amendment has been accepted making the period three years instead of five, so that we would not go back...More Button

I think it has to be borne in mind that, short as the time the Blind Persons Act has been in operation, there has been a great deal of abuse in connection with it. I told the Dáil some time ago that...More Button

Steps have been taken to have cases of malingering or pretended blindness dealt with. A Medical Inspector of the Local Government Department is, for the present at any rate, giving his time entirely ...More Button

He is. He has had special training. If it were found that the use of one Inspector was causing delay in any particular area it would be possible for the Local Government Department to obtain some sp...More Button

I do not see any reason for accepting this amendment. It would only add a certain number of 1s. pensioners.More Button

DÁIL IN COMMITTEE. - OLD AGE PENSIONS BILL, 1924—THIRD STAGE—(RESUMED).

I am not disposed to accept this amendment. I do not know what exact purpose Deputy McGoldrick had in mind in proposing it, but I am not sure that it would achieve any purpose. The Central Authority...More Button

I could not accept the amendment. It would not lead to any definite object desired. I need not repeat the arguments used.More Button

I regret that I could not accept the amendment, and I point out, further, that even the acceptance of the amendment in regard to the people over 80 years of age, which I announced the other night, wil...More Button

I regret that I cannot accept the amendment. I regret that we have to introduce this measure at all. I think I need hardly go over the arguments that have been used here time after time. The whole ...More Button

I am afraid Deputy Byrne has not been as constant in his attendance or as careful in his attention to the business as he might have been, or he would be aware that several amendments have been accepte...More Button

On the last occasion when the Bill was under consideration here I accepted an amendment which will, during the first year the Act is in operation, cost the Exchequer over £100,000.More Button

COMMITTEE ON FINANCE. - JURIES (AMENDMENT) BILL, 1924.—MONEY RESOLUTION.

The purpose of the particular provisions set out in this Resolution is to ensure that the proportion of charges as between the Central Authority and the Local Authorities shall remain as it has been h...More Button

I do not want to go into the discussion of the general matter on this particular Resolution, if it can be avoided. I would not accept the theory that the Resolution should always be vague and not de...More Button

I do not think the Deputy understands the proposal.More Button

It is simply continuing the substance of the present arrangement, which is statutory.More Button

I do not think we could, and get the substance of the Resolution in, which is to maintain the present relative positions. Otherwise, we would be failing to make a definite proposal to the Dáil with r...More Button

COMMITTEE ON FINANCE. - DÁIL RESUMES.

I beg to move that the Dáil agree with the Committee in this resolution. Question put and agreed to.More Button

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