Johnson, ThomasThursday, 19 February 1925 |
Dáil Éireann Debate
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CEISTEANNA.—QUESTIONS. ORAL ANSWERS. - ARMS FOR FISHERY INSPECTORS.
Will the Minister provide the funds necessary to take action in the courts?
QUESTION ON ADJOURNMENT.
I beg to give notice that on the adjournment I will raise the question of the policy of the Minister for Justice in regard to the arming of police and inspectors of fisheries.
TUARASGABHAIL IDTAOBH RITEACHA DO CHUR AMACH. - TREASONABLE AND SEDITIOUS OFFENCES BILL, 1925—SECOND STAGE (RESUMED).
In moving the Second Reading of this Bill the Minister emphasised the statement that every State takes powers substantially similar to those sought for under this Bill. Every Government, he said, mus...
Persuading, by various means. Having brought about that very much to be desired object, the Ministry now, by some curious turn or twist, come along and try to stir up those dying embers of passion an...
The Minister may say that it is not intended to enforce this law if it is passed, that it is always something to have in abeyance, not to use, that people may go on calling President de Valera Preside...
To be beheaded in public.
Would the Minister take an example of the period when the minority in Ireland fought against the majority in Ireland?
1916.
Suppose they say the same thing in 1925?
They acted against the expressed idea of the people.
That was only one constituency. Take South Dublin at the last election.
Perhaps the Minister for External Affairs will deal with 1848 or 1867?
That is a fine argument to put into Mr. de Valera's mouth.
The anarchist always claims that he is voicing the opinions of the people or interpreting what he believes to be the mind of the majority of the people.
Does the President not make any difference between a political offence and an ordinary criminal offence?
I do not think I would.
The President seems to be under the impression that I am objecting to the action of the people of that time. I am not, but I am justifying the possibilities of political action to overthrow an oppres...
Now, we are coming to it.
I have not heard the admission so candidly put before.
“All things are lawful, but all things are not expedient.”
That is expediency.
The Government proposition is to punish by death.
You will hang him under this Bill.
Produce the evidence.
Sedition is opposition to the Government.
A new Bill.
Are we to take it from the Minister, notwithstanding the criticism of this Bill, that this Bill as it at present stands represents the opinion and desire of the Government and of the Ministers?
QUESTION ON THE ADJOURNMENT. - ARMS FOR FISHERY INSPECTORS AND POLICE.
I gave notice that I would call attention on the Adjournment to a matter affecting particularly the fisheries of the River Shannon, and the practice of the inspectors of fisheries there carrying guns,...
Was the charge dismissed?
It was then.
I will advise my correspondents to lodge an information with the police, and I hope the police will take whatever action is necessary on that information. Will the Minister give us some light on the ...
I thought I had given a case fairly clearly. The case occurred in Rathgar. A young man who is in a bank in the City of Dublin was with a friend, and, when passing along the street, they were accoste...
It is the first time I knew it.
I knew that the detective force was armed.
I ask the Minister if the man has no sign of arms, and a shot being fired, has the policeman carrying arms authority to shoot?
I suppose they have some authority to show that they are policemen?
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