Johnson, Thomas

Tuesday, 8 February 1927

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 18 No. 4

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CEISTEANNA—QUESTIONS. ORAL ANSWERS. - PROPOSED MARGARINE TARIFF.

Is the Minister acquainted with the fact that the company which has closed down the factory had agreed to keep it open for a little while with a view to hearing the decision of the Commission?More Button

CEISTEANNA—QUESTIONS. ORAL ANSWERS. - TARIFF ACT APPLICATIONS.

Can the Minister say when the decision as regards a reference to the Tariff Commission in any of these cases will be made, and can he give any indication of how soon, let us say, the flour question wi...More Button

Could the Minister tell us what is meant by that phrase “substantially representative”? One understood from the course of discussions in the House that if any persons interested made an application i...More Button

CEISTEANNA—QUESTIONS. ORAL ANSWERS. - FATAL ACCIDENTS IN SAORSTAT.

Could the Minister give any figures as to the amount of compensation or insurance paid to injured persons or their dependants?More Button

Has the Minister any idea regarding compulsory third-party insurance?More Button

PRIVATE BUSINESS. - LAND BILL, 1927—FIRST STAGE.

I think the principle has been more or less adopted that the Second Stage has been, in fact, passed so that if the Bill is circulated in its new form it is a simple matter to proceed with the compilat...More Button

IN COMMITTEE ON FINANCE. - MONEY RESOLUTION—ARMY PENSIONS (No. 2) BILL, 1927.

I move:— To insert after the word “Organisations” where it first occurs the words “(including those known as Oglaigh na hEireann, otherwise known as the Irish Volunteers or Irish Republican Army, the ...More Button

I am afraid the Minister will have to be convicted of a charge of trying to evade the issue while pretending to be sympathetic on the principle. A woman who was a member of the Irish Citizen Army, f...More Button

Well it was used by the Irish Republican Army as a military organisation.More Button

As a military organisation. In the year 1920 that body, in fact, published a statement of its constitution and rules, and right through that statement are clear proofs that it was a military body. Th...More Button

I was going to say that that is the position so far as words and terms are concerned. But the Minister ought to know, and certain other Deputies in the House do know, as a matter of fact, that many o...More Button

Would a person who was a member of a Sinn Fein club be designated a volunteer if he were acting in the capacity of a volunteer for the time being?More Button

Yes, but you have no records.More Button

Will the Minister, before he answers, say whether the phrase “disabled members of certain other military organisations” would include persons in the category of Deputy Mulcahy's statement, that is, wh...More Button

If she were a member of the organisation.More Button

This matter really becomes more serious. There is no muster roll. Therefore the only certificate of membership is to come from those who were familiar with the persons concerned. Now that has been ...More Button

What is membership then? There is no roll, or record, and the Minister has to rely on the certificate, or an accumulation of certificates if you like.More Button

He must get two or three or five or ten people to certify that such and such a woman was engaged in the particular service, which was probably secret, and only known to one person. I think the phrase ...More Button

I ask the Minister to take note of the definition clause, of the Bill, which describes membership of two particular bodies—Irish Volunteers and Citizen Army. It does not say persons who gave a partic...More Button

There is no change in wording from the old Act. I think there is a misunderstanding. By inadvertence Deputy Davin mentioned the Military Service Pensions Act when it should be the Army Pensions Act....More Button

Will the Minister take a note of the terms of the reply quoted by Deputy Davin, that “the claim could not be conceded owing to the fact that the injury in respect of which your son died was not recei...More Button

May we assume it is the intention of the Minister that the case of a wound or death due to circumstances of that kind should be brought within this Bill? That is to say, that you are not going to ref...More Button

The point is that he was killed in the course of his duty. He did not contract disease and then die from it.More Button

He was killed in the course of his duty.More Button

There are many things that you do not know.More Button

I move the adjournment of the discussion until the amendments have been printed and circulated.More Button

They have not been printed.More Button

I was hoping that the Minister would indicate his policy on this matter, in as much as, as already pointed out, this is the occasion on which we ought to have an indication whether the Minister is res...More Button

I think the Minister deserves this to be said: that the strictness of his ruling in face of the difficulty is going to leave out a considerable number of people who undoubtedly received their disabili...More Button

May I ask the Minister if he will agree to give us at least one day to examine the amendments. I think the early proposition was to take the Committee Stage to-morrow, but in view of the series of a...More Button

I am suggesting Thursday.More Button

IN COMMITTEE ON FINANCE. - SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES—LEAVE TO INTRODUCE.

Would the Minister say when this vote on the Tariff Commission will be presented?More Button

I simply wanted to make the plea that the Tariff Commission, if it has this number of applications submitted to it already or to be submitted by the Minister, should proceed with something like speed ...More Button

The Minister need not be reminded that we are in February now and that usually new Budget proposals are offered to the House in April. I think the Minister has given an impression to the country, if ...More Button

The first hearing is to-day and you are to give a certain number of opportunities for responses and other proposals which are to come forward between now and April 1st.More Button

Is not that obvious now? Question put, and agreed to. The Dáil went into Committee on Finance.More Button

IN COMMITTEE ON FINANCE. - SUPPLEMENTARY ESTIMATES. VOTE B—CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION.

This vote is for the Civil Service Commission, and we are informed by the Minister that the common staff is to be used for two purposes by the Civil Service Commission, namely, the Civil Service Regu...More Button

That, I think, is fair so far as it goes, but it is not sufficient, I think. I am not quite so sure whether they ought not to be compensated, because there is something like a cat-and-mouse game bein...More Button

It seems to me that if we are going to proceed on those lines we might as well scrap all talk of University votes, of University education, of secondary education and technical education. Here we are...More Button

Does the Minister justify 32/- a week for a master mariner?More Button

VOTE 29. - BEET SUGAR SUBSIDY.

Is that the maximum possible, payment on 125,000 tons?More Button

Can the Minister give us any information as to the average sugar content of the beet?More Button

Does the Minister know how that compares with the average in English factories?More Button

I am glad the Minister has told us of the terms of the contract he has entered into with the company, that is to say, that his arrangement is there should be a maximum of 125,000 tons in the ten years...More Button

I said 23/-, and I think later on it comes down to 22/6, or round about an average of 23/- for the whole period. I will tell the Deputy what the exact figures are. They are 24/6 per cwt. for the fir...More Button

I do not think that the Minister quite appreciated the point I made with regard to the size of the factory and the agreement regarding the 125,000 tons over a ten-year period. The Dáil was led to beli...More Button

VOTE 29. - VOTE 68—REPAYMENTS TO THE CONTINGENCY FUND.

Is item No. 1 a statutory affair?More Button

I should like to hear some justification for this. I think the matter was raised before. If I had known that it was an indication of what might be called pensions for babies, merely an earnest of a ...More Button

ORDERS OF THE DAY. - DEFENCE FORCES (TEMPORARY PROVISIONS) BILL, 1927—SECOND STAGE.

I think it is well that we should have been reminded by Deputy Redmond of the necessity for having an annual Army Bill, or some equivalent measure, to make legal by annual re-Vote the expenses of the ...More Button

But nothing has yet been answered.More Button

Will the Minister deal with the policy of our representatives at the Imperial Defence Council in London?More Button

That is not the point I was raising. During the sitting of the Imperial Conference there were meetings of the Imperial representatives of the various countries constituting the British Empire, I may ...More Button

On military matters?More Button

Had they any policy on military matters; that is what we are looking for. Presumably there were discussions upon matters of Imperial defence. I want to know what were the matters discussed and what ...More Button

I maintain as a matter of procedure that the Minister for Defence is responsible for matters relating to defence.More Button

I only mean matters relating to defence, not Imperial foreign policy.More Button

In what connection? What has that to do with the Imperial Conference in London at which our representatives were present?More Button

I think the Minister for External Affairs has certainly come to the aid of the Minister for Defence. Whether he has come to the aid of the Government is a moot question.More Button

I will reserve what I have to say until I have read what the Minister for External Affairs said. His was a most serious contribution to this discussion.More Button

ORDERS OF THE DAY. - THE ADJOURNMENT.

Has the Minister for Finance, since the last time this particular operation was performed, made any estimate of the cost entailed to the State by bringing Deputies from the country for one day's sitti...More Button


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