Dillon, James MatthewTuesday, 8 August 1933 |
Dáil Éireann Debate
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Land Bill, 1933—Report.
Might I direct attention to what the Minister said on the Committee Stage of this Bill. In column 491 of the Official Debates, I asked the Minister if he intended to appoint an existing commissioner....
The Minister, of course, entirely misses the point. He is anxious to take offence and no offence is meant. There is a difference between the qualifications of a man who is to take up duties as a lan...
Would the Attorney-General mention the points of difference between the tenure of a circuit judge and a High Court judge?
The security of tenure is virtually the same?
Before we pass from the point which Deputy Roddy raises, has anything been overlooked here in regard to the salary position? Can the salaries of these gentlemen be interfered with except on the same ...
The Minister misses the point I am making. There is a certain proviso whereunder the existing salary of a judicial person cannot be altered except by a rather circuitous procedure. Will there be the ...
In order to save time, I propose to ask the Minister to read from columns 601 to 612 in volume 49, No. 2, of the Official Debates. If he does so, he will know my views and the Opposition views on thi...
It is right to bear in mind, when considering this amendment, that this Bill began by taking £250,000 off the county councils. It then went on to fund the remaining deficiencies for which county coun...
I should be sorry to introduce into the debate a new note of discourtesy. It has been a pleasure to discuss this Bill with the Minister so far, so that I trust he will discharge me from any desire of...
Is the Deputy correct in saying that the value of buildings will be taken into consideration when assessing the value of the land?
Would the Minister indicate whether the Deputy is correct in the contention that where there are buildings on land they will be taken into consideration in assessing the value of the land?
Then a very peculiar situation arises. You may have a man, as Deputy Rice pointed out, having little more than out-offices. His holding is divided for the purpose of leaving him with a holding to th...
——but I should like to have the dexterity of those sitting on the Front Cumann na nGaedheal Benches brought to bear on the argument that the buildings, when dissociated from that land, are worth noth...
I think the Minister should state clearly what the position is. Deputy Cosgrave's remarks have given point to the contention which I made. The standard of value under this Bill is to be the market v...
That is a very important dictum on the part of the Minister. If the Attorney-General confirms the Minister in the view that there is something in the statute by which effect can be given to that inten...
Is it clear in the Bill? I do not think it is.
Suppose that I am a farmer with £2,000 worth of land in Mayo and the Land Commission take it into their heads to transfer me to Cork. I have a modest house with modest stabling and a considerable tra...
It might be worth £2,000 to such a person as Lord Powerscourt, to a hunting man, to a breeder of bloodstock or such people, but not to the ordinary farmer.
Yes, but, as the Attorney-General admits, the words are not in the Bill.
Was not an undertaking given by the Attorney-General on the Committee Stage that the Bill would be re-committed?
I should like to remind the Attorney-General, according to an undertaking given to me during the Committee Stage, that I understood the Bill was to be re-committed.
As to Deputy Smith's reference, may I remind the Deputy that recently when we passed a tariff on containers for treacle and jam, the Revenue Commissioners decided that it referred to portmanteaux. Whe...
And nothing about portmanteaux in the Finance Bill. We thought we were describing treacle containers, but the Revenue Commissioners thought we were describing portmanteaux. What we want to get into...
I understand blue shirts and green shirts are not put into portmanteaux; they are worn. All we want is to put in such words as Deputy MacDermot suggests, which will place upon the appeal tribunal or ...
There is nothing to compel them to do it. When we invited the Revenue Commissioners to do it they did not do it.
I suggest that we should insert some words, purely from the point of view of seeing if the holding is suitable to a man's station in life. That is all the security we are asking.
We have heard the question of poor law valuation discussed for three-quarters of an hour. There is no reference to poor law valuation in the Bill or in the amendment.
I am raising a point of order and the Chair will rule on it. I want to ask if there is any means by which further reference to poor law valuation can be ruled out of order.
Is the question of the standard of valuation under discussion at present?
With great respect, I suggest that a discussion of Griffiths' valuation cannot be brought within the scope of this amendment.
With great respect, I submit that the discussion of sugar beet and when Deputy Corry grew it, cannot be brought within the scope of this amendment.
Or beet sugar.
There is a third point. Supposing a man has £3,500 worth of land. The Land Commission determines upon taking so much from him as will leave him with £2,000 worth of land. If they did that he has no ...
That is perfectly satisfactory.
I think this amendment of Deputy Roddy's would in fact provide safeguards for the small farmers against compulsory acquisition where the small farmers had worked their holdings. The Minister in his r...
Because they propose to touch their farms. If a man comes to me to ask if there is any danger of the Government taking his land, I am no longer in a position to tell him to go home and not worry abou...
I assure the Deputy that that is my intention but here is the acid test whether or not they can be reassured. If it is fair to reassure them, surely the Minister should accept this amendment. If he ...
No. I was quite prepared to take a fee to go before the judicial commissioner.
No. The judicial commissioner was there.
And give him one equally suitable.
He is not. He is a vested holder.
Subject to Section 31.
The Deputy has not read the Bill.
I have been defending from the beginning of this Bill the question of security of tenure, and consistently with that position I support this amendment. I think the powers conferred upon the Land Comm...
Business of the Dáil.
I should like to know from the Government Whip or the President, is it understood that the business will be disposed of finally to-morrow?
And there is agreement amongst all the Whips on that?
Adjournment Debate—Flour Supplies and Prices.
Nonsense.
Three Sligo bakers came up.
Nonsense—pure blatherskite.
Talk about flour.
Talk about flour.
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