Belton, Patrick

Wednesday, 12 September 1934

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 53 No. 21

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Agricultural Produce (Cereals) Bill, 1934—From the Seanad. - In Committee.

Is the Minister taking any steps to help bakers who are non-millers? He is aware, I am sure, that there has been a scarcity of flour for such bakers.More Button

Slaughter of Cattle and Sheep Bill, 1934—From the Seanad. - In Committee.

If he slaughters a beast for sale, is he not in the business?More Button

But the amendment does not say “occasionally”. It says “slaughtering cattle or sheep for sale.”More Button

If he slaughters one beast for sale and his premises are not registered, is he not in conflict with the Act right away?More Button

And, of course, the Minister is aware that there are other Acts governing slaughter houses. He cannot give a licence in respect of a ramshackle place for the slaughtering of animals. It is the local...More Button

They are not saleable. I am talking about something that is saleable. You have to be paid for taking them away.More Button

Even if he kills only one beast he commits an offence under this Act. If he comes to you for a licence to kill you send him to the local sanitary authority. They prescribe certain regulations and he...More Button

Then, I submit that Deputy Mulcahy's question is very pertinent. This really precludes a farmer from killing a sheep, bullock, heifer or anything in the shape of beef or mutton for sale, however smal...More Button

You want a certain thing, and having that certain thing brings into operation a volume of law over which you have no control and with which you are not concerned in this Bill. I submit that the effec...More Button

Does the Minister say that there is no distinction between “an offence” and “convicted of an offence”?More Button

Who is to decide whether the alleged Act is an offence or is not an offence? I thought it was the courts decided that. If the Minister through his officials makes an order saying “John Brown has comm...More Button

Under what section?More Button

Yes, but he will never get a chance of putting it before a judicial tribunal. Question put and agreed to. The following amendments were agreed to:— 10. Section 12, sub-section (4). The words “may, i...More Button

I should like to hear the Minister on this amendment. How does he propose to take in the cost of production?More Button

My question was how the Minister would have regard to the cost of production, not as to the basis on which the price would be fixed.More Button

Are we to take it from the Minister—and I shall be satisfied if he says “yes”—that in fixing his minimum price he will take into account the cost of production of beef and mutton? Will he give us the...More Button

Will the Minister do with beef and mutton what he said several times he would do with cereals? He has fixed the price of cereals. He is now going to use the cereals, the price of which he has fixed,...More Button

I am sure he cannot.More Button

Not on those conditions.More Button

The Minister adopted a very different attitude when dealing with the cost of production of cereals. He promised to fix a price, allowing a margin of profit. Is he not aware that beef and mutton are r...More Button

Is the Minister not going to explain whether or not he proposes to fix a price that will cover the cost of production and allow a little profit? Otherwise, what does he mean by saying he will have reg...More Button

The Deputy knows, but he is trying to educate the Minister and Deputy Davin.More Button

The cost of production cannot influence it?More Button

The cost of production cannot influence the price of beef and mutton? It is the export market that standardises the price for our beef and mutton both inside and outside the country. The Minister no...More Button

How?More Button

Beef and mutton are the export of your cereals. Have you not got that in yet? Cattle, pigs and poultry are the market for our cereals and the price of poultry, eggs, beef, mutton and pork standardis...More Button

I am trying to show the Minister the absurdity of his statement, in the one case, that he will standardise the price according to the cost of production, allowing a little profit, and, in the other ca...More Button

I have said what I wanted to say. If I have been out of order, I am sorry.More Button

Supposing we have no export, how does the Minister propose to fix the price?More Button

I am afraid you are going to live on Bills. Question agreed to.More Button


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