Private Notice Question.

Wednesday, 5 February 1941

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 81 No. 11

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[1775]Mr. Cosgrave: Information on William T. Cosgrave  Zoom on William T. Cosgrave  asked the Minister for Defence if he will state under what legal authority the Defence Forces were employed to search houses without warrant within the last four weeks.

Minister for Defence (Mr. Traynor): Information on Oscar Traynor  Zoom on Oscar Traynor  It is true that some searches of houses were recently carried out which were not expressly covered by an Emergency Powers Order. The Deputy will appreciate, however, that there is an obligation under international law and in the vital interests of the State to take all steps to recapture members of belligerent forces who escape from internment. I am satisfied that in the cases which the Deputy probably has in mind it was necessary that searches of houses should be carried out.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on William T. Cosgrave  Zoom on William T. Cosgrave  The Minister is condoning the breach of the law in this case. After all, the Minister operates under law. He insists upon other people carrying it out. He should have some explanation for breaking the law himself.

Mr. Traynor: Information on Oscar Traynor  Zoom on Oscar Traynor  A possible explanation might be that the military have powers under the Emergency Powers Order, 1939, to search premises. It is quite possible that the houses entered were entered in the belief—erroneous I admit—that they were covered by these powers. However, we are taking powers now to cover that type of case in future.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on William T. Cosgrave  Zoom on William T. Cosgrave  Will the Minister take the precaution of apologising to those people whose houses were invaded without authority? Will the Minister do that?

Mr. Traynor: Information on Oscar Traynor  Zoom on Oscar Traynor  That can be done.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on William T. Cosgrave  Zoom on William T. Cosgrave  But will it be done?

Mr. Traynor: Information on Oscar Traynor  Zoom on Oscar Traynor  I take it it will. Possibly, yes.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on William T. Cosgrave  Zoom on William T. Cosgrave  That is a very ungracious answer.

[1776]Mr. Traynor: Information on Oscar Traynor  Zoom on Oscar Traynor  I am not concerned with the situation personally. As a matter of fact, it was only brought to my attention.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on William T. Cosgrave  Zoom on William T. Cosgrave  I cannot hear much more than half what the Minister is saying. It is not an unreasonable question to put to the Minister.

Mr. Traynor: Information on Oscar Traynor  Zoom on Oscar Traynor  It is not.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on William T. Cosgrave  Zoom on William T. Cosgrave  Officials or persons acting under his authority or under his control have broken the law. The House will not refuse any necessary powers but it objects, and it must object, to the abuse of authority and to the use of powers that the House has not given. I am asking in this case if it is the Minister's intention to tender apologies to persons whose premises have been searched without legal authority.

Mr. Traynor: Information on Oscar Traynor  Zoom on Oscar Traynor  If that has not already been done, it will be done.

Mr. Cosgrave: Information on William T. Cosgrave  Zoom on William T. Cosgrave  Very good.


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