Jones, Denis Francis

Wednesday, 5 July 1972

Dáil Eireann Debate
Vol. 262 No. 5

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Committee on Finance. - An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú ar an mBunreacht, 1972: An Dara Céim. Fourth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 1972: Second Stage.

Let us hear the contribution from the Deputy in possession.More Button

Committee on Finance. - Finance Bill, 1972: Committee Stage.

Is it the intention to discuss amendments Nos. 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 together?More Button

Amendment No. 2 (a) intervenes.More Button

So far as the Chair is concerned, Nos. 2, 3 and 4 can be discussed together with separate decisions being taken on each one but No. 2a must come in its place after No. 2.More Button

In that case we will proceed as if these were not before the House at all, to take the amendments as they are and then, on the section, we can take the others by leave of the House.More Button

The Chair must make it clear at this stage that he must put No. 2a after No. 2.More Button

They can be discussed together but decisions will have to be taken separately. Nos. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 can, therefore, be discussed together.More Button

The Deputy should keep to the amendments.More Button

We are dealing with amendments Nos. 2 to 7.More Button

The position so far as the Chair is concerned is that Standing Orders would not permit what has been suggested. Once we enter a section, we cannot go back. Standing Order No. 93 deals with that point...More Button

What the Chair is saying in regard to what the Minister suggested as to the section itself is that Standing Orders prevent coming back to it at a later stage, once the section is entered on.More Button

Section 32 agreed?More Button

This does not arise on this section. The Deputy must keep to the section before the House.More Button

The section deals with discretionary trusts.More Button

The section deals with discretionary trusts. We cannot depart from the section.More Button

That has no application to the section.More Button

The Deputy may not proceed on that basis. His remarks must be relevant to the section we are dealing with.More Button

That matter is not before the House. We are concerned only with what is contained in the section.More Button

The section before the House deals only with discretionary trusts.More Button

This has nothing to do with the section.More Button

That is not at issue in this section.More Button

That is not being dealt with in section 32.More Button

There is no amendment before the House at the moment.More Button

The Chair will not permit the Deputy to proceed on those lines. We are on section 32 and if the Deputy wishes to contribute to this section he may do so.More Button

That could happen, too.More Button

Next Stage?More Button

Committee on Finance. - Vote 26: Local Government (Resumed).

Deputy Esmonde.More Button

The Deputy is being critical of legislation now.More Button

The Deputy is critical of something that would require legislation. Here we are dealing with administration.More Button

The Deputy knows that he must not criticise people who are not here to defend themselves.More Button

The Deputy should not use the privilege of the House to attack people who are outside.More Button

The Deputy should not indulge in personalities.More Button

As far as the Chair is concerned there is an inference in what the Deputy says.More Button

The Deputy should proceed with the administration of the Estimate.More Button

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