Jones, Denis FrancisWednesday, 5 July 1972 |
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Committee on Finance. - An Bille um an gCeathrú Leasú ar an mBunreacht, 1972: An Dara Céim. Fourth Amendment of the Constitution Bill, 1972: Second Stage.
Let us hear the contribution from the Deputy in possession.
Committee on Finance. - Finance Bill, 1972: Committee Stage.
Is it the intention to discuss amendments Nos. 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 together?
Amendment No. 2 (a) intervenes.
So far as the Chair is concerned, Nos. 2, 3 and 4 can be discussed together with separate decisions being taken on each one but No. 2a must come in its place after No. 2.
In that case we will proceed as if these were not before the House at all, to take the amendments as they are and then, on the section, we can take the others by leave of the House.
The Chair must make it clear at this stage that he must put No. 2a after No. 2.
They can be discussed together but decisions will have to be taken separately. Nos. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 can, therefore, be discussed together.
The Deputy should keep to the amendments.
We are dealing with amendments Nos. 2 to 7.
The position so far as the Chair is concerned is that Standing Orders would not permit what has been suggested. Once we enter a section, we cannot go back. Standing Order No. 93 deals with that point...
What the Chair is saying in regard to what the Minister suggested as to the section itself is that Standing Orders prevent coming back to it at a later stage, once the section is entered on.
Section 32 agreed?
This does not arise on this section. The Deputy must keep to the section before the House.
The section deals with discretionary trusts.
The section deals with discretionary trusts. We cannot depart from the section.
That has no application to the section.
The Deputy may not proceed on that basis. His remarks must be relevant to the section we are dealing with.
That matter is not before the House. We are concerned only with what is contained in the section.
The section before the House deals only with discretionary trusts.
This has nothing to do with the section.
That is not at issue in this section.
That is not being dealt with in section 32.
There is no amendment before the House at the moment.
The Chair will not permit the Deputy to proceed on those lines. We are on section 32 and if the Deputy wishes to contribute to this section he may do so.
That could happen, too.
Next Stage?
Committee on Finance. - Vote 26: Local Government (Resumed).
Deputy Esmonde.
The Deputy is being critical of legislation now.
The Deputy is critical of something that would require legislation. Here we are dealing with administration.
The Deputy knows that he must not criticise people who are not here to defend themselves.
The Deputy should not use the privilege of the House to attack people who are outside.
The Deputy should not indulge in personalities.
As far as the Chair is concerned there is an inference in what the Deputy says.
The Deputy should proceed with the administration of the Estimate.
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