Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - County Roscommon Estate.

Wednesday, 8 November 1972

Dáil Eireann Debate
Vol. 263 No. 6

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Mrs. Burke: Information on Joan Burke  Zoom on Joan Burke  asked the Minister for Lands if the Land Commission have made inquiries concerning the acquisition of an estate (details supplied) in County Roscommon; and, if so, the decision, if any, reached in the matter.

Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  The Land Commission recently carried out a detailed [1073] inspection of the property referred to following which they decided not to institute proceedings for acquisition. In response to a subdivision application by the owner the Land Commission have consented to the sale of the greater part of the holding to a purchaser approved of by them.

Mrs. Burke: Information on Joan Burke  Zoom on Joan Burke  Could the Minister state on what grounds did the Land Commission consider the purchaser suitable for this land?

Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  According to the information I have here, they feel that they have sufficient land on another estate nearby to satisfy local congestion. They also felt that they would have considerable difficulty in disposing of at least 50 acres of the property about which the Deputy raised the question because it is subject to flooding and would not be considered by the local congests as being suitable land.

Mrs. Burke: Information on Joan Burke  Zoom on Joan Burke  Is the Minister aware that this 77 acres of land was sold for less than £5,000? I am terribly surprised at the Minister. I think he should know more about this area. He represented it at one time. He realises I am sure, as well as I do, that the local estate which is not divided yet would not be sufficient for the congests in the area and that this 77 acres would be a great help. I warned the Land Commission several months ago that there would be trouble in this area if the Land Commission did not acquire this estate and the Minister must be aware now that there is trouble brewing in this area. I would ask him at this point to ask the Land Commission to acquire this estate for division among the congests in the interests of justice and fair play.

Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  The Deputy's observations on this matter will be brought to the notice of the Land Commission. I thought from something that Deputy Burke said earlier on that she was making some personal criticism of me in connection with this matter. I do not know on what grounds the Deputy makes that allegation.

[1074]An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Cormac Breslin  Zoom on Cormac Breslin  Question No. 19.

Mr. Donnellan: Information on John F. Donnellan  Zoom on John F. Donnellan  Is the Minister aware that the individual who bought this estate is employed by Roscommon County Council as a public health inspector and that he is also a publican in Ballaghaderreen? His name is Thomas McGarry and he is a Fianna Fáil hatchetman. Is the Minister aware of these things?

Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  Deputy Donnellan has named somebody, which is not very much to Deputy Donnellan's credit. There is not very much Deputy Donnellan can say to his own credit. Is the Deputy making an allegation about this particular person or about some member of the Fianna Fáil organisation or about Fianna Fáil?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Cormac Breslin  Zoom on Cormac Breslin  Question No. 19.

Mr. Donnellan: Information on John F. Donnellan  Zoom on John F. Donnellan  I am sure there are many allegations made in this House but I asked the Minister was he aware that the individual——

Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  I will not allow you to repeat what you said because it is a disreputable thing to do in this House.

Deputies:  Chair.

(Interruptions.)

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Cormac Breslin  Zoom on Cormac Breslin  I am calling Question No. 19.

Mr. Donnellan: Information on John F. Donnellan  Zoom on John F. Donnellan  The Minister sanctioned the sale of this land to an individual who is not a farmer and there are other people in that area who are already employed in agriculture and who are more entitled to that land than the individual to whom the sale of the land was sanctioned.

Mr. Coughlan: Information on Stephen Coughlan  Zoom on Stephen Coughlan  The woodcutter.

Mr. Donnellan: Information on John F. Donnellan  Zoom on John F. Donnellan  There is no need for me to give the Minister any facts about the individual who bought the land. He knows them too well already.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Cormac Breslin  Zoom on Cormac Breslin  Question No. 19. We cannot spend the evening on this question.

[1075]Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  The Land Commission consider the purchaser of this land to be a suitable person. He was not in contact with me personally, directly, indirectly or otherwise.

Mr. Donnellan: Information on John F. Donnellan  Zoom on John F. Donnellan  I did not suggest that.

Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  You had better not.

Mr. Donnellan: Information on John F. Donnellan  Zoom on John F. Donnellan  I did not suggest it.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Cormac Breslin  Zoom on Cormac Breslin  Question No. 19. Would Deputy Donnellan please resume his seat and allow Questions to continue?

Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  Deputy Donnellan is capable of suggesting anything.

Mr. Donnellan: Information on John F. Donnellan  Zoom on John F. Donnellan  He has a public house in Ballaghaderreen and he is an official of Roscommon County Council and at the same time he is supposed to be more entitled to this land than the people in the area.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Cormac Breslin  Zoom on Cormac Breslin  Will Deputy Donnellan please sit down?

Mr. L'Estrange: Information on Gerald L'Estrange  Zoom on Gerald L'Estrange  Is it Government or Land Commission policy at present to sanction the sale of land to people, in this particular case a man who already has a good local government position and is the owner of a public house, when there are uneconomic holders in the area crying out for land?

Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  The Land Commission consider that they have sufficient other land in the locality to solve the congestion problem.

Mr. L'Estrange: Information on Gerald L'Estrange  Zoom on Gerald L'Estrange  Is the Minister aware——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Cormac Breslin  Zoom on Cormac Breslin  Question No. 19.

Mr. L'Estrange: Information on Gerald L'Estrange  Zoom on Gerald L'Estrange  ——of the number of speculators in my own county and in Roscommon and other counties who have nothing to do with land and who are purchasing land and the local farmers cannot purchase it against them because many of them represent investment companies? Is it the Land Commission's policy to sanction the purchase [1076] of land by those particular people? Is the Minister aware that he promised six or eight months ago that he would bring in legislation——

Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  I did not.

Mr. L'Estrange: Information on Gerald L'Estrange  Zoom on Gerald L'Estrange  Yes, you did. You promised you would bring in legislation to prevent speculators buying land.

Mr. S. Flanagan: Information on Seán Flanagan  Zoom on Seán Flanagan  I did not.

Mr. L'Estrange: Information on Gerald L'Estrange  Zoom on Gerald L'Estrange  You certainly did.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Cormac Breslin  Zoom on Cormac Breslin  Will the Deputy please sit down? That is a separate question. I am anxious to get on with Questions.

Mrs. Burke: Information on Joan Burke  Zoom on Joan Burke  This is a very important question.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Cormac Breslin  Zoom on Cormac Breslin  It is important to get on with Questions. I am calling Question No. 19. We cannot spend the whole evening on this farm in the west.

Mrs. Burke: Information on Joan Burke  Zoom on Joan Burke  I wish, with your permission, a Cheann Comhairle, to raise this matter on the Adjournment.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Cormac Breslin  Zoom on Cormac Breslin  The Chair will communicate with Deputy Mrs. Burke.


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