First and Second Dáil Papers: Motion.

Thursday, 30 November 1972

Dáil Eireann Debate
Vol. 264 No. 3

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Parliamentary Secretary to the Taoiseach (Mr. Andrews): Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  I move:

That the Clerk of the Dáil transfer to the Deputy Keeper of Public Records and Keeper of State Papers for official deposit the documents in his custody relating to the First and Second Dáil and miscellaneous papers relating to the period up to 6th December, 1922.

Certain papers relating to the First and Second Dáil and to meetings held in 1922 for the purpose of electing a Provisional Government and enacting the 1922 Constitution are held in the custody of the Clerk of the Dáil. The Committee on Procedure and Privileges are in favour of handing over the papers to the Public Record Office where they will be available for historians. Standing Order 78 prevents the handing over of the papers without the express leave of the House. The purpose of this motion is to obtain the necessary leave.

Mr. Coogan: Information on Fintan Coogan  Zoom on Fintan Coogan  Will they be available to the public?

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  Yes. They have been under lock and key for 50 years now. It [399] is a matter of making them available to historians and other interested persons.

Mr. E. Collins: Information on Edward Collins  Zoom on Edward Collins  I fully support any move to make official records available to the Public Record Office and to historians and I would ask the Parliamentary Secretary to ensure that these records will be available very freely.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  They will, I think, be freely accessible to interested parties.

Mr. Tully: Information on James Tully  Zoom on James Tully  There was a debate in the Committee on Procedure and Privileges as to who exactly qualifies as an historian.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  It is a matter of interpretation.

Mr. Tully: Information on James Tully  Zoom on James Tully  I should hate to think that an historian was judged on the stamp that might be given to a certain thing. It was said that someone was a relative of a Member of this House and should not be considered as an historian; it was wrong.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  I agree with the Deputy.

Motion agreed to.


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