Browne, SeánWednesday, 7 June 1978 |
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Finance Bill, 1978: Committee Stage .
: We have had a lot of discussion and repetition on the amendment.
: Is amendment No. 2 withdrawn? I must put the amendment soon.
: Am I to put the amendment? We are having a great deal of repetition and Deputy Barry is aware of it.
: The Chair will not curtail the debate but the Chair is interested in the fact that there is a lot of repetition and it is the Chair's job to see this is avoided.
: Allegations should not be made in the House.
: Am I to put the amendment?
: About ministerial friends and about something being done in respect of ministerial friends. The Chair regards that as an allegation. I said allegations should not be made, and Deputy Barry would a...
: The Deputy has made that statement four times since I came into the House.
: The Chair has no power over Ministers here. They are doing their business and it is not up to the Chair to direct them to do one thing or another.
: We have got rid of the amendment and we discussed that for over an hour on the amendment.
: The Deputy is entitled to discuss any matter relevant to the section but we cannot go back to discuss the amendment all over again.
: I have already said that the Deputy is entitled to raise any matter which is relevant to the section.
: I am not objecting. I said that we were getting back to the amendment, which was discussed for over an hour.
: I have said to Deputy Cluskey that this is complete repetition. For the best part of an hour we discussed on the amendment this question of an informal agreement and we cannot discuss it all over a...
: We discussed it, Deputy Horgan, certainly while I was in the chair for half an hour.
: I want to make it clear that the Chair will not curtail the debate in any way but the Chair has a responsibility to see that there is no repetition.
: The Deputy should allow the Minister to reply.
: The Deputy has repeated his question about four times in the past 15 minutes and the Chair cannot allow this kind of repetition.
: The Chair is not responsible for the answers given. The question cannot be repeated time and again.
: And a repetitious nature.
: The Chair is not responsible for the Minister's answers. However, it is the the responsibility of the Chair to prevent repetition.
: The Chair must put the question. Section 1 has gone on since half past ten, almost three hours, and we have heard nothing but repetition. I am asking Deputies to let me put the section.
: If there is repetition there is only one person to blame, namely, the Chair for allowing it. The Chair has no responsibility for ministerial replies but he must deal with repetition.
: Please, only one speaker at a time, and relevant. I will not allow any more repetition. If there is something new, well and good, but I will not listen to all the same things being said over and o...
: That has come up about 40 times already. I am not responsible for ministerial answers.
: I am putting the question.
: The Chair has no responsibility for that. This has been repeated time and time again.
Finance Bill, 1978: Committee Stage (Resumed) .
: We must dispose of the amendment first. There are two amendments to the section that must be disposed of and we may then discuss the section.
: The Deputy is entitled to do that so long as he stays on the amendment.
: It would be much better if the Deputy waited and debated this matter on the section. The amendment is a very limited amendment. It is that the provisions of the section will apply in 1978-79. We ...
: All we are on at the moment is amendment No. 3.
: Deputy Barry is in possession.
: Is the amendment withdrawn?
: Is section 2 agreed?
: I think the Chair will be forgiven for expressing a wish to get away from section 2. We are getting back to a Second Stage debate. We had this almost agreed about an hour ago. Deputy Bruton wishes...
Agricultural Produce (Meat) (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill, 1978: Committee Stage .
: That is really a matter for the Second Stage.
: Is section 5 agreed?
: The Deputy is going outside the question before us in this Bill.
: In section 6 we are dealing with fees payable for exporters' licences.
: We have not reached section 7 yet.
: Amendments No. 4 and 5 have been ruled out of order. Sections 9 and 10, inclusive, agreed to. SCHEDULE. Question proposed: “That the Schedule be the Schedule to the Bill.”
: I take it that the Deputies would like to finish this Stage of the Bill before 8.30 p.m.
: It can be looked at on Report Stage. Question put and agreed to. Title agreed to. Bill reported with amendment.
: When is it proposed to take Report Stage?
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