Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Cork Garda Promotions.

Wednesday, 21 May 1980

Dáil Eireann Debate
Vol. 321 No. 2

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Mr. L. Burke: Information on Liam Burke  Zoom on Liam Burke  asked the Minister for Justice if his attention has been drawn to the discrimination being practised against garda sergeants on the beat in Cork city which has resulted in no qualified sergeant on the beat being promoted in Cork city during the past 25 years; and if he will make a statement on the matter.

Mr. Doherty: Information on Seán Doherty  Zoom on Seán Doherty  The promotion of members of the force up to and including the rank of inspector is, by law, a matter for the commissioner. Promotion to the rank of inspector is made through selection by a central interview board in accordance with procedures laid down in the Garda Síochána promotion regulations, and members are promoted on the basis of objective assessment. In the circumstances, I cannot see that discrimination could be exercised against sergeants in a particular area and performing particular duties and I have indeed been assured by the commissioner that no such discrimination has been or is being practised.

(Interruptions.)

[222]Mr. Bruton: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  May I ask a supplementary on the last question?

(Interruptions.)

Dr. FitzGerald: Information on Garrett Fitzgerald  Zoom on Garrett Fitzgerald  Could we have order and allow the Minister to be heard.

Mr. Doherty: Information on Seán Doherty  Zoom on Seán Doherty  The Ceann Comhairle had called me.

Mr. Bruton: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  May I ask a supplementary on the last question, please?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Joseph Brennan  Zoom on Joseph Brennan  Order, please. The Chair has no trouble dealing with one side of the House.

Minister for Agriculture (Mr. MacSharry): Information on Raymond MacSharry  Zoom on Raymond MacSharry  As long as it is one side only.

Mr. Bruton: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  Might I ask the Minister if the Comptroller and Auditor General has access to all the information which is relevant in respect of the payment of such rewards as are paid?

Mr. Doherty: Information on Seán Doherty  Zoom on Seán Doherty  That is a separate question completely.

Mr. Bruton: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  It is not. Would the Minister agree, in order to satisfy himself that the money is properly disposed of, that the Comptroller and Auditor General should have access to such information?

Mr. Doherty: Information on Seán Doherty  Zoom on Seán Doherty  The reply has been more than adequate.

Mr. Harte: Information on Patrick D. Harte  Zoom on Patrick D. Harte  Could we hear the reply to question No. 2 again?

Mr. MacSharry: Information on Raymond MacSharry  Zoom on Raymond MacSharry  The Deputy would have heard it had he remained quiet.

Mr. Harte: Information on Patrick D. Harte  Zoom on Patrick D. Harte  The Minister is out of his depth with the farmers.

Mr. MacSharry: Information on Raymond MacSharry  Zoom on Raymond MacSharry  We did not hear much from the Deputy about them.

Mr. T. J. Fitzpatrick: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  (Cavan-Monaghan): When the Minister for [223] Agriculture was sitting over there the other day the Taoiseach asked him to stay quiet, and he might obey that request.

Mr. MacSharry: Information on Raymond MacSharry  Zoom on Raymond MacSharry  I am afraid of my life now.

(Interruptions.)

Mr. Doherty: Information on Seán Doherty  Zoom on Seán Doherty  To repeat the reply to question No. 2:

The promotion of members of the force up to and including the rank of inspector is, by law, a matter for the commissioner. Promotion to the rank of inspector is made through selection by a central interview board in accordance with procedures laid down in the Garda Síochána promotion regulations, and members are promoted on the basis of objective assessment. In the circumstances, I canont see that discrimination could be exercised against sergeants in a particular area and performing particular duties and I have indeed been assured by the commissioner that no such discrimination has been or is being practised.

Mr. L. Burke: Information on Liam Burke  Zoom on Liam Burke  Does the Minister not think it strange that these dedicated men, who have been promoted to the rank of sergeant and posted to important stations in Cork city have been passed over time and time again for further promotion?

Mr. Doherty: Information on Seán Doherty  Zoom on Seán Doherty  The promotions in question are the responsibility of the Garda Commissioner. There is an interview board; there are procedures from the educational and professional points of view that must be met by way of examination.

Mr. T. J. Fitzpatrick: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  (Cavan-Monaghan): Does the Minister accept that no promotions have taken place in these areas in 25 years?

Mr. Doherty: Information on Seán Doherty  Zoom on Seán Doherty  I do not accept that no promotions have taken place.

[224]Mr. T. J. Fitzpatrick: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  (Cavan-Monaghan): Does the Minister know whether or not they have?

Mr. Doherty: Information on Seán Doherty  Zoom on Seán Doherty  There have been 15 promotions in the past 10 years.

Mr. T. J. Fitzpatrick: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  (Cavan-Monaghan): From Cork city?

Mr. Doherty: Information on Seán Doherty  Zoom on Seán Doherty  In the specific area with which we are dealing.

Mr. T. J. Fitzpatrick: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  (Cavan-Monaghan): Have sergeants on the beat, so to speak, been promoted in those areas?

Mr. Doherty: Information on Seán Doherty  Zoom on Seán Doherty  Sergeants of the Garda Síochána have been promoted.

Mr. T. J. Fitzpatrick: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  (Cavan-Monaghan): But from each station?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Joseph Brennan  Zoom on Joseph Brennan  I am afraid this practice of Deputies standing up asking a series of questions has never been allowed at Question Time. Deputies should remain seated while the Minister is replying, and so should the Minister while Deputies are speaking.

Mr. T. J. Fitzpatrick: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  (Cavan-Monaghan): I deliberately put a question to him.

Dr. FitzGerald: Information on Garrett Fitzgerald  Zoom on Garrett Fitzgerald  The Minister has neither sat down nor answered.

Mr. L'Estrange: Information on Gerald L'Estrange  Zoom on Gerald L'Estrange  He was asked about sergeants on the beat, not other sergeants promoted, and he did not answer the question he was asked.


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