Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Local Authorities Revenue.

Tuesday, 1 March 1983

Dáil Eireann Debate
Vol. 340 No. 7

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Mr. Molloy, Mr. S. Walsh: Information on Robert Molloy  Zoom on Robert Molloy  and Mr. Fitzsimons asked the Minister for the Environment when an announcement will be made giving details of the proposed new local charges and increases in existing charges by which local authorities are to raise about £65 million in extra revenue.

Mr. Spring: Information on Dick Spring  Zoom on Dick Spring  I propose to issue a communication to local authorities as soon as possible on this matter in the context of the preparation of their estimates for 1983.

Mr. Flynn: Information on Pádraig Flynn  Zoom on Pádraig Flynn  From the £65 million it is proposed to get by way of extra charges for services this year from local authorities, it is estimated that about £2 million will have to be collected from ratepayers in County Mayo. This would be in excess of the total amount received by rates on commercial properties and it would involve enormous charges. Is the Minister aware of the exact level of charges that the sums he speaks about would entail? Does he realise people will not be in a position to meet this kind of demand and what is he going to do to provide [1197] extra money for local authorities to prevent them from going bankrupt?

Mr. Spring: Information on Dick Spring  Zoom on Dick Spring  The imposition of charges by me will be far less than those which would have been necessary if we had allowed the £97 million shortfall which I found in the Estimates for my Department. The new estimate of £65 million is far less than that and the charges will, obviously, be reduced accordingly.

Mr. Flynn: Information on Pádraig Flynn  Zoom on Pádraig Flynn  It is about time that the Minister and the Government got away from the gambit of blaming everything that might have to be done in 1983 on what was proposed for 1982. They are the Government now. It is time they lived up to their obligations and if they have a shortage of money it is up to them to provide for it and not be blaming previous Governments.

Mr. Spring: Information on Dick Spring  Zoom on Dick Spring  I am sure the Deputy will agree that the extra £31.5 million from the Department as opposed to the shortfall in the original estimates is no mean sum and will be of benefit to the local authorities in carrying out their obligations.

Mr. Flynn: Information on Pádraig Flynn  Zoom on Pádraig Flynn  Does the Minister realise that he has thrown an incendiary device into the local authorities which will blow up in his face at any moment? What does he propose doing about it and why is the Minister of State, Deputy Quinn, getting so hot and bothered?

Mr. Fitzsimons: Information on James N. Fitzsimons  Zoom on James N. Fitzsimons  The Minister stated earlier on that he would be meeting the County Managers' Association on Thursday next. Will the information in relation to the extra charges which the Minister will be advising them to impose in the various counties be available for county council meetings next Monday?

Mr. Spring: Information on Dick Spring  Zoom on Dick Spring  No, that information will be given to the House before it is made available to anyone else. It will not be made available to county managers on Thursday.

[1198]Mr. Flynn: Information on Pádraig Flynn  Zoom on Pádraig Flynn  While I can appreciate that the Minister is anxious to leave the House to evade answering questions on this subject——

Mr. Spring: Information on Dick Spring  Zoom on Dick Spring  I never feel any necessity to evade a question.

Mr. Flynn: Information on Pádraig Flynn  Zoom on Pádraig Flynn  When does the Minister intend to bring before the House the measure to implement this £65 million charge on ratepayers? Surely they are entitled to at least know that?

Mr. Spring: Information on Dick Spring  Zoom on Dick Spring  If the Deputy is finished with his frivolous questions I can go off and attend to the business of my Department and we will have it at an early date.

Mr. Flynn: Information on Pádraig Flynn  Zoom on Pádraig Flynn  It is the business of the Minister's Department and it is here he should be answering questions about the business of his Department.


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