Order of Business.Thursday, 31 January 1985 |
Dáil Eireann Debate
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The Taoiseach:
It is proposed to take item No. 6.
Mr. Gene Fitzgerald:
On the Order of Business, will the Taoiseach say when it is intended to introduce the promised amending legislation on road transport?
The Taoiseach:
The Bill will be available in the earlier part of the session.
Mr. Gene Fitzgerald:
I presume it is at an advanced stage of preparation, as the Taoiseach would normally say?
The Taoiseach:
The Deputy has taken the words out of my mouth.
Mr. Gene Fitzgerald:
That is the long-playing record.
Proinsias De Rossa:
Will the Taoiseach state when the revised Estimates indicating cuts of £28 million in the budget yesterday will be published?
The Taoiseach:
As soon as possible.
Mr. R. Burke:
What does that mean?
The Taoiseach:
The information is [1278] available. It may take a little while to get it printed but it will be very soon.
Mr. Prendergast:
In view of the announcement by OPEC yesterday of the agreed reduction in oil prices, will the Taoiseach ensure that the appropriate Ministers here have consultations with the interests in this country to ensure that the benefits——
An Ceann Comhairle:
That does not arise on the Order of Business.
Deputies: Where was the Deputy yesterday?
Mr. G. Collins:
It is too late now.
An Ceann Comhairle:
Order, I am calling Deputy Harney.
Mr. Leyden:
Bring back Jim Kemmy.
Miss Harney:
With the permission of the Chair. I wish to raise of the Adjournment the serious inconvenience caused to residents in Clondalkin as a result of the postal strike.
An Ceann Comhairle:
The Chair will communicate with the Deputy.
Mr. Molloy:
Will the Taoiseach explain to the House what are the Government's legislative programmes and plans for the proposed changes in the boundaries of local authority areas? The Taoiseach said that elections would be held in June and that the Boundary Commission would make recommendations. Is it the intention of the Government to bring in legislation here to change the boundaries following whatever recommendations are made by the Boundary Commission prior to holding the elections? Will the Taoiseach say if these local elections will be held within the new boundaries?
The Taoiseach:
I can confirm that the legislation will be drafted as soon as we receive the recommendations of the two electoral commissions and it will be [1279] brought to this House at the earliest possible time. People will have the advantage from seeing the reports of knowing the shape of what is to come and the elections will be held on the basis of the new boundaries.
Mr. Molloy:
If there is no agreement on the proposed changes in the boundaries the normal procedures will have to apply whereby a public inquiry will have to be held. Decisions will have to be made and there will be matters that will arise as a consequence of boundary changes. Surely that will have to be passed by this House before elections take place?
Mr. Molloy:
We are seeking information and clarification.
The Taoiseach:
I understand the hesitation of the Opposition about local elections at this stage but I am afraid they will have to face them. The position is that in respect of boundary changes within counties, that does not require legislation but boundary changes of local authorities would require legislation. As is clear from the announcements made, it is not proposed to make changes that would cut across the boundaries of counties. The only question being considered by the committee is as to whether after consultation with the relevant local authorities in the constituencies of Cork, Limerick and Galway——
An Ceann Comhairle:
Arising out of the matter raised by the other side of the House, I am afraid this is developing into a debate. If the Taoiseach proceeds to give a full explanation it will be questioned from the other side and then we are in a debate. That is what I want to avoid.
The Taoiseach:
I am trying to explain that the changes proposed in the boundaries do not require legislation. The only ones that would require legislation would be if the county boroughs in question had [1280] their boundaries changed. Advice has been sought on that and in the light of the advice and the consultations that will take place we will have to consider if legislation is needed to deal with that matter.
Mr. Molloy:
Is the Taoiseach saying——
An Ceann Comhairle:
I am not going to allow a debate on this. I am calling Deputy Gallagher.
Mr. Molloy:
May I conclude by saying that there is absolute confusion with regard to what the Taoiseach has said? The secretary of the Boundary Commission has said he does not know the answers——
An Ceann Comhairle:
I am sorry but the Deputy will have to find another way of raising the matter.
Mr. Molloy:
It is clear that the legislative programme will not be implemented in time to enable the boundaries to be——
The Taoiseach:
Let me explain. The Deputy is being obtuse. Within counties changes in boundaries do not involve legislation. The only boundary changes involved in this are those affecting the Dublin area and possibly, but only possibly, the other three county boroughs mentioned. Otherwise the changes in boundaries do not involve legislation.
An Ceann Comhairle:
We must move on. I cannot reach a situation where I will allow a discussion on one thing today and refuse to allow a discussion on something tomorrow.
Mr. P. Gallagher:
I have a few requests to the Taoiseach. Will his Minister for Justice intervene on humanitarian grounds in the hunger strike at Portlaoise Prison——
[1281]An Ceann Comhairle:
It does not arise on the Order of Business.
Mr. P. Gallagher:
—where two of my constituents are on hunger strike, one for 23 days and the other for 14 days, and their health is deteriorating?
An Ceann Comhairle:
It does not arise on the Order of Business.
Mr. P. Gallagher:
If that is not urgent I do not know what is.
Dr. O'Connell:
Would the Taoiseach consider announcing the Government's legislative programme for the present session and save unnecessary questions on the Order of Business?
The Taoiseach:
Following normal procedure here on answering questions in regard to promised legislation, I am always willing to do that.
Mr. R. Burke:
Further to the question asked by Deputy De Rossa with regard to the proposed cuts——
An Ceann Comhairle:
It was not a question.
Mr. R. Burke:
——could the Taoiseach clarify exactly what he means by “as soon as possible”? Will it be this week, next week, or when will we hear about the proposed cuts?
An Ceann Comhairle:
Does it arise out of the question by Deputy De Rossa?
Mr. R. Burke:
It does. The Taoiseach said “as soon as possible”. So that the package can be clear to the general public——
[1282]The Taoiseach:
In the near future, but it is a question of publishing the full Book of Estimates with the provisions therein. A fair amount of printing and preparation is involved and a number of changes also.
Mr. R. Burke:
Will the Taoiseach also clarify the buoyancy and the £30 million?
The Taoiseach:
I clarified that yesterday, to the Deputy's discomfiture. He must not have been here when we had buoyancy.
Mr. O'Kennedy:
In terms of the budget debate which is about to start, in order to have some precision on the points relevant in the debate——
An Ceann Comhairle:
You must ask a question.
Mr. O'Kennedy:
So that we will not have any confusion during the course of the debate, will the Taoiseach or the Tánaiste, who I presume is going to address the House, explain how much they are relying on in terms of departmental balance, buoyancy and savings?
An Ceann Comhairle:
That is debate.
The Taoiseach:
The answer to Deputy O'Kennedy's question is in the table at the end of the Budget Statement.
The Taoiseach:
If the Deputy is capable of reading it the figures are all set out in the table.
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