Dukes, Alan M.

Wednesday, 8 May 1985

Dáil Eireann Debate
Vol. 358 No. 2

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Finance Bill, 1985: Committee Stage (Resumed).

At the beginning of his remarks, Deputy Haughey asked what the cost would be of reducing the standard rate from 35 per cent to 25 per cent. The full year cost is what is of most interest and in 1985...More Button

They had to do with some matters which are not entirely germane to the amendment before us. As far as the first quarter figures are concerned, the Deputy has suggested that he draws an inference, fro...More Button

We do not publish monthly figures.More Button

As I said two minutes ago and last night, I have no reason to be other than confident that we will keep to the budget targets for this year. There was some discussion last night also as to whether the...More Button

The Deputy's colleague claimed it would cost £18 million. He must also have gone to the higher end of the bracket.More Button

I am taking a careful line.More Button

Deputies on the other side refer frequently to this concept of diminishing returns and most often misuse that concept. The situation in relation to income tax, in particular, is one to which that des...More Button

——but I suggest that they might give it a little thought so that there would be some consistent approach to the matter under discussion.More Button

Deputy Carey referred to a series of cases where it appears that the code number at the end of the RSI No. inserted on a tax free allowance form was incorrect. Some appear to have been incorrect last...More Button

Deputy O'Dea is mixing up a few things and not taking enough account of the factors I mentioned. I said that if a person's income increases in line with the rate of inflation and if at the same time ...More Button

The question then arises which I think Deputy Ahern is coming to, whether everybody is getting indexation of wages. The total base for income tax would increase by more this year than the rate of inf...More Button

No, because the tax revenue I have forecast and which is included in the budget already takes account of the effects of the tax expenditures that we provided for in the Bill, so that the £15.4 million...More Button

The Deputy just did not bother to listen. I have already taken account of that in the figures. The forecast for tax revenue already includes the effects of what the Deputy is talking about, so that ...More Button

That is not what the Deputy was saying.More Button

I have had the calculation checked again. That taxpayer who gets an increase of 6 per cent this year to bring it to £8,480 still stays in the 35 per cent bracket. He is not affected by the 48 per ce...More Button

Sometimes Fianna Fáil Deputies tell me I am not going to get the tax revenue I project for the year, and sometimes they say I will get more than I projected. If they could make up their minds what th...More Button

You do not want to believe the answer.More Button

The figure is £15.4 million in 1985 and just under £26 million in a full year.More Button

That would be a highly speculative exercise which would not serve any useful purpose. Deputies opposite have been seduced for some time past by the notion that there exists an animal called the “self...More Button

Deputies may well ask about spirits and I will be happy to tell them what I have already told the House on several occasions. I reckon that the change in spirits duty reduced excise revenue by about ...More Button

I do not think it would serve any useful purpose to estimate either what the total wage increase would have to be or the total in the public sector in order to produce £15.4 million extra revenue to c...More Button

As I said before, it is a hypothetical question. In addition, doing that kind of calculation in public would not be particularly helpful for the course of public expenditure or industrial relations. ...More Button

None at all.More Button

It is the same point over and over again.More Button

That is not what I said.More Button

Deputies opposite are suffering either from desperation or reticence but I think I know the reason. Deputy Ahern was either not listening to the debate or did not pay any attention to what I said on ...More Button

I have said there is no way a reduction of £15.4 million in revenue flowing from the Opposition's amendment could be made up in the course of this year. The Deputies are endeavouring to suggest there...More Button

The Deputies opposite only like to see one side of the simple arithmetic. There are two other things to be remembered. If wage rates in either the public or private sector increase by more than the...More Button

The amendment before us proposes to extend the double rate bands which are applicable to married persons to single and widowed parents. One of the consequences of doing this would be that married cou...More Button

I have here the conclusion of the judgment of the Supreme Court in the Murphy case. The concluding paragraph reads as follows: The court accepts the proposition that the State has conferred many reve...More Button

The amendment proposes to increase the personal allowance, in addition to increases already provided for in the Bill, by £200 for a married couple and £100 for widowed and single persons. The cost of ...More Button

I said it would be less than 6 per cent for this year and approximately 5½ per cent next year.More Button

They think I am bit on the high side.More Button

As we have set out in the national plan, it is our intention to adjust rate bands and allowances each year in order to ensure that the real burden of taxation of income tax payers does not increase. ...More Button

Our intention, as set out in the national plan, was to adjust tax bands and allowances each year in order to bring about the results I mentioned. Of course there is a judgment to be made on each occas...More Button

I was afraid it might not get into the record. I just mention that that allowance is being increased by 25 per cent. The allowance under section 11 of the 1971 Finance Act for a blind person is being...More Button

I say what I say. You have no need to say it for me.More Button

To find our three colleagues on the other side of the House now proposing to use the same source of extra revenue to finance tax reductions of £28.6 million as they were going to use an hour ago to fi...More Button

As far as the exemplary taxpayer referred to by Deputy Connolly is concerned, one must come to the conclusion that, given the increase in income which Deputy Connolly attributes to him, he will end up...More Button

He has more money in his pocket.More Button

I would have thought it fairly evident that if you increase gross income by 6 per cent and index tax bands and allowances, at the end of the day you will have 6 per cent more tax revenue and after tax...More Button

The Deputy is wrong in that.More Button

It really is not all that ingenious of Deputy Ahern to come along and say that he is wondering about a forecast of inflation of 6 per cent. If I remember correctly, about this time last year in the H...More Button

As it turned out I was, if anything, a little on the pessimistic side in the forecast. Deputies on the other side of the House then, of course, picked out things that were increasing by fairly large ...More Button

If Deputy O'Dea wants to have a debate on borrowing he can have it anytime. It might do him good to sit in with Deputy O'Kennedy and me when we are having a chat about borrowing. Deputy O'Dea's contr...More Button

The Deputy is amusing himself but he does not like to admit that at the back of his mind he thinks the forecast is probably right. He should not be afraid to admit that. It is no skin off his nose t...More Button

I am not talking to everybody.More Button

May I ask Deputy Connolly if he would consider restricting his discourse on inflation so that we could put the question and say that at the end of two days work we have passed three sections of the Bi...More Button

No.More Button

Written Answers. - Tax Refund.

The Revenue Commissioners have advised me that the taxpayer's address, as supplied by the Deputy, differs from that which the inspector of taxes has on record. The last claim from the taxpayer for r...More Button


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