Order of Business.

Friday, 10 May 1985

Dáil Eireann Debate
Vol. 358 No. 4

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Minister for the Public Service (Mr. Boland): Information on John Boland  Zoom on John Boland  It is proposed to take item No. 10, Vote 38, Agriculture, Revised and Supplementary Estimates. By agreement these items shall be taken together for the purposes of debate. Also by agreement the Minister for Agriculture shall be called on not later than 3.30 p.m. to conclude the debate and the proceedings thereon shall be brought to a conclusion not later than 4 p.m., provided that if a division is challenged on any Estimate today the taking of such division shall be postponed until 8.30 p.m. next Wednesday, 15 May.

Mr. Haughey: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  Let me ask the acting Taoiseach if his attention has been drawn to an extraordinary statement made in the US to the effect that the problem of Northern Ireland is not one concerning Britain and Ireland——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  We have had this before and I have explained that it is not in order on the Order of Business in this way.

Mr. Haughey: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  Perhaps I should conclude my sentence first.

[636]An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  I have got the gist of it.

Mr. Haughey: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  If when I finish my sentence you rule me out I will gladly accept your ruling.

Deputies:  Hear, hear.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Notwithstanding “hear, hear” let me explain a little — it will take only a second — what this sort of thing gives rise to. I allowed Deputy Haughey to do that one morning last week, then some time afterwards a Minister stood up and he was replying to some remarks made by the Taoiseach——

Mr. Haughey: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  No, I am not the Taoiseach. The Taoiseach is in America.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  The former Taoiseach — I had to allow the Minister to go on for a reasonable length of time until I knew what he was talking about and then I was attacked by Deputy Haughey for allowing a Minister speak. It is clear that what Deputy Haughey is now raising is out of order and I appeal to him not to embarrass the Chair and to accept my ruling.

Mr. Haughey: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  As always I am prepared to accept your ruling, but I submit to you that it would be just simple courtesy if you would let me conclude my statement. If then you rule it out of order I will gladly accept your ruling.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  At that stage——

Mr. Haughey: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  It is not in order, Sir, for your good self to conduct the affairs of this House by not permitting people to conclude a sentence. The sentence itself may be out of order but at least it should be heard in its entirety.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Some of these sentences are very long.

Mr. Haughey: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  I promise you faithfully, cross my heart and hope to die, if you [637] permit me to finish my sentence I will willingly abide by your ruling. Let me then ask if this statement by the Taoiseach, which is totally in contradiction of the conclusions of the New Ireland Forum report, represents Government policy.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  End of sentence?

Mr. Haughey: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  End of sentence.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  End of story. It is not in order.

Mr. Wilson: Information on John P. Wilson  Zoom on John P. Wilson  Could I raise on the Adjournment——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  We have no Adjournment debate today.

Mr. Wilson: Information on John P. Wilson  Zoom on John P. Wilson  It is a matter of House security.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  We have no provision for any Adjournment debate.

Mr. Wilson: Information on John P. Wilson  Zoom on John P. Wilson  I confess that I suspected——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  You could not avoid knowing it.

Mr. V. Brady: Information on Vincent Brady  Zoom on Vincent Brady  Let me ask the Minister if his attention has been drawn to the statement by the Garda Representative Body that the gardaí in Dublin are to quit the streets after 8 p.m. because the Minister for Justice has not adhered to certain undertakings.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  That is not in order.

Mr. V. Brady: Information on Vincent Brady  Zoom on Vincent Brady  It is a very serious matter. Has the Minister's attention been drawn to that?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  Zoom on Thomas J. Fitzpatrick  That does not arise in this case.

Mr. Haughey: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  Is there any chance of [638] getting the Taoiseach home before he does any more damage?

Mr. Wilson: Information on John P. Wilson  Zoom on John P. Wilson  Or of putting him on a lead?

Mr. Boland: Information on John Boland  Zoom on John Boland  You do not have to go away to do damage.


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