Kenny, Enda

Tuesday, 27 May 1986

Dáil Eireann Debate
Vol. 367 No. 1

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Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - School Recreation Facilities.

A total sum of £1.2 million is available in 1986 to meet existing commitments and for allocation to new projects under my Department's capital grant scheme. A large number of grant approvals in 1985...More Button

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A total commitment of £1.962 million was allocated in 1985 in respect of 113 new projects, of which £906,000 was paid in 1985. A sum of £1.313 million has been provided towards the construction of re...More Button

It was that fact, as well as the very large number of applications received in the Department. Work was under way on many of these projects and they were at different stages of construction.More Button

Yes, I will indeed.More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Dublin School Staffing.

The enrolment averages for the retention of the existing staffing level in this school have not been secured for the three quarter periods ended 31 March 1986 and if they are not secured in the curren...More Button

The Deputy is aware of the panel rule and the regulations governing staff levels in schools. While the school have confirmed that the retention average will not be reached in the relevant quarter, th...More Button

Documentation has been received in the Department from the school principal making a case for the retention of the teacher in question but the Department inspector, on his visit in September, will hav...More Button

The Deputy is no doubt aware, as a former teacher, that there are other factors to be taken into consideration. The Deputy is aware of the details of the panel rules and of the numbers regarding reten...More Button

That is not peculiar to this school. No application for special consideration was received prior to January of this year when documentation was received from the school principal and, as I said, the ...More Button

They are bound there by the panel rules. The teacher can continue to teach until offered a suitable vacancy and the inspector will visit the school for a special report in September.More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Parents' School Contributions.

I would like to state that it is a fundamental principle of the free post-primary eduction scheme that no charge be made in respect of: 1. Instruction in any subject listed in the general school progr...More Button

I am aware of the complaint to which the Deputy refers. The Department are investigating this matter with a view to further clarification by the principal involved relating to the exact nature of wha...More Button

While the question does not refer to a specific school, I understand what the Deputy is speaking about. The regulations for the free post-primary education scheme are crystal clear. The Department ...More Button

Yes. I have.More Button

Words can always be interpreted in many ways, as the Deputy knows. I have asked my Department to have that matter clarified specifically with regard to the regulations for the free post-primary educa...More Button

The regulations are clear. No complaints are received from vocational, comprehensive and community schools. Any complaints that are received are investigated.More Button

The Department have no record of ever having received a complaint from a parent concerning the charging of fees by vocational schools. Community and comprehensive schools do have a record of two compl...More Button

I do not have that information but I can forward it to the Deputy if he wishes.More Button

We have had very few. There have been none in respect of vocational schools and only two in respect of community and comprehensive schools.More Button

I will supply that information if it is available. But every complaint is investigated thoroughly by the Department to see that school authorities comply with the regulations and that charges are not...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - School Oral Irish Test.

The Deputy would appear to be misinformed, as no candidates at the 1986 leaving certificate oral Irish tests had their responses taped. As regards other oral examinations, it is intended to use tape r...More Button

This matter has been taken up with the union concerned. I am quite sure that school principals have informed the students of the regulations, specifically with regard to modern continental languages....More Button

The reason is that the Department have at their disposal a great number of competent inspectors with regard to oral Irish and the present system of monitoring on behalf of students has proved to be r...More Button

The Teacher's Union of Ireland qualified their agreement as follows: Should the tests proceed in the form proposed by the Department, the Union state that their acceptance of the situation must be wit...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Curriculum Subjects.

The Curriculum and Examinations Board which were set up in 1984 on an interim basis have been engaged in an overall review of school curricula and systems of assessment.More Button

The question of an appropriate series of courses in the process of formulation for senior post primary level will be examined later in the light of the proceedings and recommendations with regard to t...More Button

The Deputy may take it that what has been put forward is being examined by the Department. Depending on the result of that examination or recommendation, a course or courses for senior post-primary l...More Button

The Deputy will have this information as soon as the recommendations have been deliberated on and decided by the Department. I hope that will be as soon as possible.More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Supervisors and Examiners.

My Department received approximately 31,000 applications for examining and superintending the 1986 certificate examinations in response to advertisements placed in the public press in October 1985 and...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Dublin Community College.

The sport and leisure complex at present under construction at Donaghmede, County Dublin, which is expected to be completed this year, is on a site adjacent to Grange Community College. As the complex...More Button

I am aware that Grange Community School opened in 1982 with a capacity for 1,000 pupils and that the current number is about 679. The facilities to be provided at the leisure centre include a large s...More Button

I accept that it would be preferable if the complex were sited on the school site but I do not accept that a programme cannot be arranged. There are schools in towns all over the country where pupils...More Button

I am not clear if the Deputy wants another £1 million spent on a site 100 yards away from the existing complex. He may take it that officials of the Department of Education are more than willing to p...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Pre-School Education.

I would refer the Deputy to the discussion paper, and to the decisions of Government on the Ages for Learning, copies of which are available in the Oireachtas Library. There are no proposals at presen...More Button

The Deputy is aware that the responsibility of the Minister for Education is to provide for primary education. This is done through the national school system which permits enrolment at four years of ...More Button

That is a matter for discussion. The “Ages for Learning” recommends what I have already quoted. I would point out that the Minister for Health under the Children's (Care and Protection) Bill, 1985, a...More Button

It is a matter of opinion. The Department do not wish to become involved in pre-schooling because it would be tantamount to lowering the school entry age and would prove quite expensive.More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Dublin Remedial Teacher.

There are two national schools with similar names in Donnycarney referred to respectively as Our Lady of Consolation Girls, roll number 17684 and Our Lady of Consolation Infants, roll number 17685. T...More Button

I accept that there is a need for remedial teachers. There are approximately 300 applications before the Department. These have to be examined by the Department's inspectorate. Remedial teaching at...More Button

I do not have the exact date but I will communicate that information to the Deputy.More Button

The information requested in the Deputy's previous question was that the principal teacher made an application for a remedial teacher in February 1984. As I have said, there are 300 such applications...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Finglas (Dublin) School.

To qualify for an additional, eighth assistant teaching post, this school would need to secure an average enrolment of 275. The average enrolment for the quarter ended 31 March 1986 was 248. It woul...More Button

The Deputy's information seems to be somewhat different from that which is available to me. I will have that matter looked at. The average enrolment at 31 March was 248. To secure the additional ei...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Navan School Transport.

The standard of service which is available to the pupils concerned is considered adequate in the context of the general operation of the post-primary school transport scheme. In the circumstances, it...More Button

My information is that the distance is about 500 yards and that there are footpaths on both sides of the road for most of that journey. I accept that this applies to thousands of other pupils who hav...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Youth Exchange Bureau.

In line with the proposal in the White Paper on Youth Policy, In Partnership With Youth, my Department will support the establishment of a bureau for the promotion and development of educational excha...More Button

The initial response is as contained in the Government's White Paper on Youth Policy — it is favouravble — and the Department will support the establishment of a bureau. The Deputy will be aware that...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Collinstown Park (Dublin) Community School.

It is a matter for the board of management of each post primary school to formulate its own policy on intake of pupils in the light of the accommodation available in the school. I do not consider tha...More Button

The question refers to other matters. There has been a large growth in the number of pupils in Neilstown, Rowlagh and Quarryvale areas and that could not have been anticipated by the Department or th...More Button

The combined number of pupils expected to leave the three primary schools up to 1990 is predicted to increase from 347 this year to 450 in 1990. A detailed survey of the post primary accommodation nee...More Button

I will have that matter examined in the context of the report coming before me on the north Clondalkin area.More Button

I cannot give the Deputy a definite answer as to the reasons for the population growth in any area. I am sure the planning officer of Dublin County Council made approximations based on the number of ...More Button

Other matters may be responsible for this and are outside our control. The vast number of pupils attending Collinstown Park Community School attended the Neilstown, Rowlagh and Quarryvale primary sch...More Button

I am expecting a report on the area within a short time and when I receive it I will take the points raised by Deputies Skelly and Mac Giolla into account.More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Oral Irish Examinations.

I accept that the Teachers' Union of Ireland did not agree to the taping of oral Irish candidates in 1986. If an official of my Department made the statement referred to by the Deputy, it was due to...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - University Student Numbers.

I am of course concerned about any matter affecting access to third level education by our young people. However, the factors affecting participation in third level education are many and varied. The...More Button

I accept, Deputy, that distance from a third level institution is a factor but, when you consider that Dublin has a very wide variety of third level institutions, it is below the national average. The...More Button

The improved grant schemes both from the Higher Education and the European Social Funds do help to defray the cost on those who have to travel. Planning is going ahead for further RTCs in Castlebar, ...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Dublin Institute of Technology.

The Green Paper Partners in Education published in November 1985 proposed the establishment of the Dublin Institute of Technology which would incorporate the six third level colleges presently adminis...More Button

I am not aware of any specific difficulties but I am sure these matters were referred to in the discussions that took place. The matter is now going before the Government — the Minister intends to pu...More Button

This was referred to in Partners in Education at considerable length. The consultation process with all interested parties has now been completed and the Minister expects to be able to put certain pr...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Education Green Paper.

The many views and comments contained in the large number of submissions received and made at meetings in regard to the Green Paper Partners in Education are at present under detailed consideration. ...More Button

I do not want to go into details in regard to this, but the Deputy will be aware that on several occasions the Minister has expressed openness on all views with regard to the Green Paper. These matter...More Button

The purpose of a Green Paper is to invite discussion with regard to proposals. This Green Paper was published last November. Submissions were invited before 28 February last. Ninety submissions hav...More Button

To date 90 submissions have been received and more are coming in. The Deputy can take it that each submission will be fully investigated prior to any decision being taken. The fact that meetings hav...More Button

That is a matter of specific detail which can be teased out when the Bill comes before the Dáil.More Button

That is why the Green Paper was published. The Deputy can take it that all these matters will be considered in detail.More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Child Care Courses.

The primary objective in introducing part-time child care courses in third level VEC colleges was to allow serving personnel in residential child care an opportunity to gain an appropriate qualificat...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - New Regional Technical Colleges.

Consultants have been appointed for all five proposed new regional technical colleges. Sites have been acquired for the colleges at Tallaght and Dún Laoghaire and architectural planning of these two ...More Button

And Tallaght.More Button

The Deputy's question referred to a progress report for new RTCs and I have given him that. He may take it that these matters are being actively pursued.More Button

There is nothing odd about that, even though it may appear a little unusual to the Deputy. He can take it that these RTCs are being dealt with as quickly as possible.More Button

No.More Button

I said sites have been acquired for Tallaght and Dún Laoghaire. We are at an advanced stage of negotiation in respect of Blanchardstown, and Castlebar and Thurles are being dealt with also.More Button

There are other forms of publicity with which the Deputy is well acquainted. He can take it as being the policy of the Department that sites have been acquired in two of the cases. Blanchardstown is...More Button

Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - School Psychology Services.

There are no formal liaison arrangements between the psychologists employed by my Department and those employed in the health services but I understand that there are good communications between them ...More Button

I have a particular interest in this area. The informal liaison between the two groups of psychologists has worked very satisfactorily up to now and there has been no great demand for change. Parag...More Button

I am personally interested in this area and I should like to see the service operating at the highest level possible. If the Deputy has specific instances of delays or where failure has occurred, I as...More Button


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