Order of Business.

Tuesday, 25 April 1989

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 389 No. 1

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[108]The Tánaiste: Information on Brian Lenihan Snr.  Zoom on Brian Lenihan Snr.  It is proposed to take Nos. 3 and 9. It is also proposed that the Dáil shall sit later than 9 p.m. today and business shall be interrupted at 10.30 p.m. It is also proposed that all Stages of No. 3, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion at 7 p.m. by one question which shall be put from the Chair and which shall, in relation to amendments, include only amendments set down by the Minister for the Environment. It is further proposed that, under Standing Order 41, statements regarding the winding up of Fóir Teoranta shall be made at 8.30 p.m., that no speaker shall exceed 20 minutes and the order shall not resume. Private Members' Business shall be No. 23 and No. 35, motion 45.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Is the proposal——

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  A Cheann Comhairle——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  May I put the question concerning the Order of Business?

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  Before you put the question, Sir——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Deputy Dukes on the Order of Business.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  I would like to ask if the Government will not reconsider this Order of Business in the light of a series of unco-ordinated statements, indeed in some cases contradictory statements and even going as far as last Friday hysterical statements by the Taoiseach, the Minister for Finance and the Minister for the Environment about the prospects for interest and inflation rates and if they will consider making time during the day to add into the Order of Business some time to discuss these issues.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  This is not an appropriate intrusion into the Order of Business.

[109]Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  I am asking if the Government would not consider this an appropriate addition to the Order of Business.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Order of Business is before the House.

The Tánaiste: Information on Brian Lenihan Snr.  Zoom on Brian Lenihan Snr.  It has been agreed between the Whips.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  Since this was agreed between the Whips. I have heard, for example, the Taoiseach, last Friday on his way to Japan, ask the housewives of Ireland to make sure that inflation did not happen. I would like to know if the Government——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  This is not in order. Deputy Dukes knows that it is not in order.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  ——know something about inflation and interest rates that they are not telling the rest of us about. If so, will they say it in the House, not on the radio, and not ask the housewives to save their bacon from inflation.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Is the proposal for the late sitting——

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  I am asking if the Government would not agree that they should insert this addition into the Order of Business.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Deputy must find another way of raising these matters. It is not in order to do so now.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  I am asking——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Deputy Dukes, please desist.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  I am asking for this addition to be put in.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Deputy has made his point. He ought not continue to maintain disorder in the House.

[110]Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  I am asking if the Government will reply.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Chair has no function in this matter and the Deputy knows that.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  Will the Government agree to insert this additional item into the Order of Business for today?

The Tánaiste: Information on Brian Lenihan Snr.  Zoom on Brian Lenihan Snr.  The Deputy's Whip has agreed to this. We must have some order.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  On Friday the Taoiseach had to descend to asking the housewives of this country to save you lot from inflation.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Is the proposal for the late sitting today agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 3 agreed? Agreed. Are the time limits proposed for dealing with statements regarding Fóir Teoranta agreed? Agreed.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  On the Order of Business, Sir, now that you have for some reason which is beyond me prevented the Government from answering the question about whether to insert this item into today's Order of Business——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Let us be fair about such matters, Deputy Dukes.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  ——I would like to ask——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  This is getting beyond the Chair now.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  I would like to ask the Government——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  These kinds of attacks upon the Chair are becoming a bit much for me.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  It is not an attack upon the Chair. The Chair has said nothing at all about inflation or interest rates. Will the Government make time available during the course of this week to discuss their [111] apparent prospects or forecasts for inflation and interest rates?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  These are primarily matters for the Whips to decide. Deputy Spring.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  May I take it that the Government will have that issue discussed by the Whips?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Deputy Spring.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  Can the Government say whether or not they will have that matter discussed by the Whips and if not, why? Are they hiding? Are they running away? All it needs is a simple yes or no answer.

Mr. Spring: Information on Dick Spring  Zoom on Dick Spring  As I presume, a Cheann Comhairle, you will not allow me to raise the Japanese version of GUBU in this House today, I would like to raise on the Adjournment the shortfall of funds in the Southern Health Board.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Yates: Information on Ivan Yates  Zoom on Ivan Yates  A Cheann Comhairle, you disallowed a Private Notice Question of mine relating to the two deaths in the vicinity of a psychiatric hospital in Carlow last week. I cannot understand how this matter lacks urgency. There are many precedents where loss of life——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I have given my reasons for disallowing your question and you may not pursue the matter now. If you need any further elaboration my office is at your disposal.

Mr. Yates: Information on Ivan Yates  Zoom on Ivan Yates  The matter is urgent and I ask you to——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Deputy may not engage in argument with the Chair.

Mr. Yates: Information on Ivan Yates  Zoom on Ivan Yates  I wish to raise the matter on the Adjournment.

[112]An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Deenihan: Information on Jimmy Deenihan  Zoom on Jimmy Deenihan  For the eighth time I should like to attempt to raise on the Adjournment the deepening health crisis in Tralee general hospital which has resulted in the closure of 13 long stay beds, and the imminent closure of a further 30 out of a total of 120 long stay beds. The out-patients' physiotherapy department which administers 10,000 treatments per year will close next Monday——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy and he need not elaborate now.

Mr. Deenihan: Information on Jimmy Deenihan  Zoom on Jimmy Deenihan  A public meeting was held in Tralee last night—

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Please, Deputy Deenihan.

(Interruptions.)

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Chair will not be intimidated.

Mr. Noonan: Information on Michael Noonan  Zoom on Michael Noonan  (Limerick East): Will the Tánaiste make arrangements to inform the House as soon as there is a decision regarding interest rates? Will the Minister for the Environment stop “talking up” interest rates before the decision is made?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I am not sure this is a matter for the Order of Business as it does not advert to legislation.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  The Government are throwing away all the progress we made.

Mr. Noonan: Information on Michael Noonan  Zoom on Michael Noonan  (Limerick East): I am simply asking the Minister for Finance to inform the House as soon as there is a decision regarding a rise in interest rates. We are tired of reading about decisions in the newspapers.

[113]Mr. N. Treacy: Information on Noel Treacy  Zoom on Noel Treacy  That is good coming from the Deputy.

(Interruptions.)

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Questions should be put down in regard to these matters. This is not Question Time and I will not allow it to be turned into a mini-Question Time.

Mr. S. Barrett: Information on Seán Barrett  Zoom on Seán Barrett  Ask P.J. Mara about it.

Miss Quill: Information on Máirín Quill  Zoom on Máirín Quill  I wish to raise on the Adjournment the crisis in second level schools because of the failure to make proper provision for the successful introduction of the junior certificate course.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will be in touch with the Deputy concerning that matter.

Mr. Griffin: Information on Brendan Griffin  Zoom on Brendan Griffin  I wish to raise on the Adjournment the subject matter of Question No. 23 on today's Order Paper.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy concerning that matter.

Mr. Farrelly: Information on John V. Farrelly  Zoom on John V. Farrelly  Will the Tánaiste say whether it is the intention of the Government to introduce the agreement recommended by an all-party committee on the distribution of lottery funds——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  This has nothing to do with the Order of Business and the Deputy will have to raise it in another way.

Mr. Farrelly: Information on John V. Farrelly  Zoom on John V. Farrelly  Ministers are giving out cheques——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Please, Deputy Farrelly, desist.

Mr. Farrelly: Information on John V. Farrelly  Zoom on John V. Farrelly  The health service is in a critical state.

Mr. Quinn: Information on Ruairí Quinn  Zoom on Ruairí Quinn  I wish to raise on the Adjournment the inordinate delays in An Bord Pleanála caused by the failure of the [114] Minister for the Environment to make adequate staff available and to streamline some of the procedures which are within his scope under regulations.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Connaughton: Information on Paul Connaughton  Zoom on Paul Connaughton  When will the Government allow a special debate on the matters relating to the Defence Forces?

Mr. Reynolds: Information on Albert Reynolds  Zoom on Albert Reynolds  Was the Deputy here last week?

The Tánaiste: Information on Brian Lenihan Snr.  Zoom on Brian Lenihan Snr.  This matter was dealt with by the Taoiseach in a very fair way and I understand that discussions are taking place on a suggestion in regard to this matter.

Mr. Connaughton: Information on Paul Connaughton  Zoom on Paul Connaughton  Will it take place soon? Will the Tánaiste consult his leader?

(Interruptions.)

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Order, please. I am now proceeding to deal with the Order of Business proper.

Deputy S. Barrett rose.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Deputy Barrett, please allow me to get on to the Order of Business.

Mr. S. Barrett: Information on Seán Barrett  Zoom on Seán Barrett  I wish to raise on the Adjournment the forced closure of the Irish Association for Victims Support because of lack of funding.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will be in touch with the Deputy concerning the matter.

Mr. Stagg: Information on Emmet Stagg  Zoom on Emmet Stagg  Can the Tánaiste say whether the Government will be introducing the promised legislation to implement the recommendations of the commission on electoral boundaries in this term?

[115]An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Deputy has referred to that on numerous occasions.

Mr. Stagg: Information on Emmet Stagg  Zoom on Emmet Stagg  It is promised legislation although I was nearly thrown out of the House on a previous occasion for establishing that.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  We are now moving to Item No. 3.


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