Order of Business.

Wednesday, 14 March 1990

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 397 No. 1

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The Taoiseach: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  It is proposed to take Nos. 2, 7 and 8. It is also proposed that business shall be interrupted at 11 p.m. today. It is further proposed that all [3] Stages of No. 2, if not prevously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion at 7 p.m. by one question which shall be put from the Chair, and which shall, in relation to amendments, include only amendments set down by the Minister for Tourism and Transport. It is further proposed that No. 8 shall be taken not later than 8.30 p.m. and the Order shall not resume. Private Members' Business shall be No. 20.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Is the proposal for the late sitting today agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with No. 2 agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal in relation to No. 8 agreed? Agreed.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  May I ask the Taoiseach if the Government intends to arrange an early special meeting of the Intergovernmental Conference to discuss the implications of yesterday's decision for the extradition process?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The matter does not arise now. It must be raised in another way at another time.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  May I ask, Sir, I think this will be in order, if the Taoiseach intends to give time in this House for consideration of the implications of yesterday's Supreme Court Decision?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  That question should be asked in the appropriate way.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  We are on the Order of Business, Sir, and I am asking if the matter can be included in that business.

The Taoiseach: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  Perhaps I could communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Spring: Information on Dick Spring  Zoom on Dick Spring  Given the inaction of the banking regulatory authorities, the lack of resources of the fraud squad and the inaction of the Director of Public Prosecutions, may I seek your permission, Sir, to raise on the Adjournment the collapse of Merchant Banking Limited; they are in liquidation?

[4]An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with Deputy Spring in respect of that matter.

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  I wished to raise the matter of yesterday's decision in relation to extradition, but as the Taoiseach has indicated he is prepared to consider providing time for debate in this House, I will leave the matter until then.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  It does not arise now as I said earlier.

The Taoiseach: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  I did not say anything about considering having a debate, I said I would communicate with Deputy Dukes.

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  With your permission, Sir, I wish to raise on the Adjournment the questions that arise on the extradition issue because of yesterday's decision and its effects on Anglo-Irish relations.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will be in touch with the Deputy concerning that matter.

Mr. Ferris: Information on Michael Ferris  Zoom on Michael Ferris  With your permission, Sir, I wish to raise on the Adjournment the urgent need to appoint speech therapists to Scoil Aongusa, a special school in Cashel?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will be in touch with the Deputy concerning that matter.

Mr. Finucane: Information on Michael Finucane  Zoom on Michael Finucane  With your permission, Sir, I wish to raise again on the Adjournment the ongoing dispute at Anglo-Irish Meat Processors in Rathkeale, Limerick.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Byrne: Information on Eric J. Byrne  Zoom on Eric J. Byrne  I would like to ask the Minister for Social Welfare the reason for the extraordinary delay in the publication of the Social Welfare Bill, 1990. Members might recall that we started to discuss the 1989 Bill on 8 March 1989 and we started to discuss the 1988 Bill on 10 March 1988. It is now 14 [5] March 1990 and we have not begun to discuss this Bill.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Deputy is imparting a lot of information, has he a specific request to make?

Mr. Byrne: Information on Eric J. Byrne  Zoom on Eric J. Byrne  Yes I want to know why the Social Welfare Bill, 1990 has not been brought before the House and when it will be brought before the House?

The Taoiseach: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  Tomorrow.

Mr. Dukes: Information on Alan M. Dukes  Zoom on Alan M. Dukes  The Taoiseach is being very specific now.

Mr. S. Barrett: Information on Seán Barrett  Zoom on Seán Barrett  There are disputes at Cabinet so they cannot get through the business.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Ciúnas.

Mr. McGinley: Information on Dinny McGinley  Zoom on Dinny McGinley  Is mian liom arís do chead a lorg chun easpa áiseanna iarbhunoideachais ar Oileán Árainn Mhór a ardú ar an athló.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Gheobhaidh tú freagra uaim i gceann tamaill, a Theachta.

Mr. Howlin: Information on Brendan Howlin  Zoom on Brendan Howlin  For the third time I seek permission to raise on the Adjournment the issue of a report of a medical team from this country into the conditions at a psychiatric institution on the island of Lesos and the responsibility of the Minister for Health as chairman of the Council of Ministers to publish the report?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy in that regard.

Mr. Rabbitte: Information on Pat Rabbitte  Zoom on Pat Rabbitte  With your permission, Sir, I wish to raise on the Adjournment the answer given to this House on 15 February 1990 by the Minister for Industry and Commerce concerning the fact that a total consideration of £107 million was to be received by the administrator for the Irish business of ICI, the implications of the sale being conducted in secrecy——

[6]An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Deputy may not elaborate. I will communicate with Deputy Rabbitte. A speech is not in order now Deputy.

Mr. Rabbitte: Information on Pat Rabbitte  Zoom on Pat Rabbitte  I am not making a speech. I want to raise on the Adjournment the implications of the case being conducted in camera and the implications of this for our democracy and the fact that the Minister for Finance's £107 million is not going to be retrieved?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Deputy is clearly flouting the ruling of the Chair. I will not tolerate that.

Mr. Deenihan: Information on Jimmy Deenihan  Zoom on Jimmy Deenihan  With your permission, Sir, I wish to raise on the Adjournment the subject matter of a question I raised in this House last week on the indiscriminate shooting of migratory and song birds by tourists.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will be in touch with the Deputy.

Mrs. T. Ahearn: Information on Theresa Ahearn  Zoom on Theresa Ahearn  With your permission, Sir, I wish to raise on the Adjournment the fact that almost 50 per cent of the nursing staff in St. Joseph's Hospital, Clonmel are employed in a temporary or part time capacity. This problem becomes more serious when I realise now that a similar situation exists in Our Lady's Hospital, Cashel.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I am well aware of the Deputy's interest in the matter and I am sure she appreciates the Chair's difficulty in such matters in dealing with the large number of requests such as we have each morning.

Mr. Spring: Information on Dick Spring  Zoom on Dick Spring  In relation to the matter which I sought to raise under Standing Order 30, which was raised by the leaders of the other parties in the House, may I ask the Taoiseach, as he has agreed to communicate with the Leader of the Fine [7] Gael Party, if he would extend his largesse and communicate with others as well?

The Taoiseach: Information on Charles J. Haughey  Zoom on Charles J. Haughey  But of course.

Mr. Garland: Information on Roger T. Garland  Zoom on Roger T. Garland  I seek permission once again to raise on the Adjournment the totally unsatisfactory response from Aer Rianta to the legitimate representations made by St. Margaret's Community Council regarding the serious noise pollution resulting from the opening of the new runway at Dublin Airport.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Taylor: Information on Mervyn Taylor  Zoom on Mervyn Taylor  I seek leave to raise on the Adjournment the matter of the phasing out of the scheme for school caretakers and the implications of this.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Connor: Information on John Connor  Zoom on John Connor  I seek leave to raise on the Adjournment with the Minister for Agriculture and Food the underspending of £3.1 billion under the Community agricultural budget in the current year. Would he seek to have these funds redistributed——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  This is not in order now and the Deputy knows this full well.

Mr. Allen: Information on Bernard Allen  Zoom on Bernard Allen  I wish to raise on the Adjournment the use of Fóir Teoranta as a rescue agency in an effort to save the Sunbeam plant in Cork.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will be in touch with the Deputy concerning that matter.

Mr. Moynihan: Information on Michael Moynihan  Zoom on Michael Moynihan  I seek permission once again to raise on the Adjournment the concern being expressed by the Kenmare, Sneem and Waterville communities about the development of fish farming in Kenmare River.

[8]An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Cotter: Information on William Cotter  Zoom on William Cotter  I request permission to raise on the Adjournment the difficulties being experienced by the mushroom industry at present. It is essential that we get an opportunity to discuss this matter.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. Gilmore: Information on Eamon Gilmore  Zoom on Eamon Gilmore  I would like to raise on the Adjournment the problems facing a five year old child who, due to the closure of the children's ward at St. Michael's Hospital, Dún Laoghaire, has had 19 courses of antibiotics while awaiting for two years a tonsils operation.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will be in touch with the Deputy concerning that matter.

Mr. Ryan: Information on Seán Ryan  Zoom on Seán Ryan  I wish to raise on the Adjournment the delay in providing a national school in Naul in my constituency.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will communicate with the Deputy.

Mr. O'Shea: Information on Brian O'Shea  Zoom on Brian O'Shea  I again seek permission to raise on the Adjournment the need for the Government to deliver on their commitment to decentralise a Government Department to Waterford.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I will be in touch with the Deputy concerning that matter. Can we proceed now to the Order of Business?

Mr. Browne: Information on John Browne  Zoom on John Browne  (Carlow-Kilkenny): I seek permission to raise on the Adjournment the lack of library facilities, described by the union of students as a national scandal, at RTC colleges.

Mr. Taylor: Information on Mervyn Taylor  Zoom on Mervyn Taylor  May I ask the Taoiseach what progress has been made, in ordering the business of the House, to provide for a debate on the privatisation of Irish Life?

[9]An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  That is a question which should be pursued in the normal way.

Mr. Taylor: Information on Mervyn Taylor  Zoom on Mervyn Taylor  It is a matter relating to the ordering of business.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  No, it is not a matter for the Order of Business and I am ruling accordingly.

Mr. Taylor: Information on Mervyn Taylor  Zoom on Mervyn Taylor  No, this is a matter relating to the ordering of business and I am asking the Taoiseach to tell us what progress has been made.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Is it a reference to today's business?

Mr. Taylor: Information on Mervyn Taylor  Zoom on Mervyn Taylor  Today's and tomorrow's.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I gather there are questions on today's Order Paper concerning that matter.

Mr. Taylor: Information on Mervyn Taylor  Zoom on Mervyn Taylor  We are entitled to have a debate on that matter. This is clearly necessary as that matter cannot be adequately dealt with by way of questions. As you know, there are limitations on what questions may be raised.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The question of a debate is a matter primarily for the Whips.

Mr. Taylor: Information on Mervyn Taylor  Zoom on Mervyn Taylor  It is a matter relating to the ordering of business in the House. The Taoiseach indicated yesterday that some discussions were taking place. Is an attempt being made to hide this matter and sweep it under the carpet? Why can we not have a debate on this matter in the House? Should the Minister for Finance make announcements on the matter to the press or here in this House? Is the House not the place where we should be talking about it?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  This is leading to disorder.

Mr. Taylor: Information on Mervyn Taylor  Zoom on Mervyn Taylor  This matter is being swept under the carpet.


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