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Industrial Relations Bill, 1989: Committee State.
I move amendment No. 2: In page 7, lines 1 and 2, in the definition of “employer”, to delete “having previously worked for that person” and substitute “or who acquires an undertaking for which one or ...
I am anxious, especially at this stage of the Bill, to move forward as quickly as possible. However, Deputy Quinn's remarks are central to this, we cannot enact legislation if the definitions are def...
That is my understanding of it as well which is why I raised this point. I do not know why the Minister would wish to provoke us into having to take up 15 minutes voting on this. That is not the spi...
I see the point Deputy Mitchell is making but I do not agree with it. It is just as likely to operate the other way round — that the person dismissed would be far more likely to prosecute a dispute a...
I will have to press the amendment. Question put: “That the words proposed to be deleted stand.” The Dáil divided: Tá, 75, Níl, 68. Tá
I do not feel very enthusiastic about this amendment. I would like to take this opportunity to remark that in discussing the definition of trade disputes we have all steered away from this old inclus...
I raised this point initially because I have regrets about not having the courage of my convictions to table an amendment on it. I think the Minister should look at this point on Report Stage. It is...
I broadly agree with the remarks of Deputy Mitchell. In looking at amendment No. 35 I think it would take up time unnecessarily to give a long explanation of the motivation behind my own amendment wh...
I move amendment No. 9: In page 7, lines 11 and 12, in the definition of “worker”, to delete “or a person who under a contract for services personally does work or provides services for another”. I ac...
The Minister has adequately met this situation and if Deputy Mitchell reflects on his submission he will conclude that it is likely to create more confusion than exists at present. He said that we w...
There is no danger of Alex Spain going on strike.
I was looking at the amendments that are consequential on Deputy Mitchell's amendment No. 13 and the alternatives tabled by myself and Deputy Toddy O'Sullivan. For the purposes of definitions in this ...
I did not expect that we would be precipitated into this discussion so early because I was quite happy, for the reasons I outlined earlier, with the definition of industrial action as it stands. We ar...
Industrial Relations Bill, 1989: Committee Stage (Resumed).
When I reported progress we were dealing with the wider issue raised by Deputy Mitchell's amendment to the definition of the term “industrial action”, the consequent impact of the use of that term in ...
I also agree with what Deputy Mitchell has said and accept the Minister's undertaking in good faith. It is important to make the point that arising out of Deputy Mitchell's amendment the discussion w...
I move amendment No. 14: In page 7, lines 30 to 36, to delete subsection (2).
In any other section of the Bill I would be loath to delay its progress through the House but this is a major issue and it has not been responded to. I would ask my colleagues to reflect again on the...
On the latter point, I tried very hard, with expert assistance, to provide for wildcat strikes without impunging the rights of the kind of shop steward and worker I am talking about here but I was uns...
Supposing procedures are not agreed.
Unfortunately that is not the answer——
The only reason I am pressing this amendment is that it is central to the Bill. Incidentally, my visit was to Castleisland, not Killorglin. The company in Killorglin is identifiable and quite amena...
Yes. The basis of a real doubt has been established in the minds of other people who, like myself, did not recognise this section for what it was. For example, at 10.30 a.m. tomorrow I will be at th...
The Minister misunderstands the position. I was not referring to a non-union house where the immunities do no apply anyway. Non-union houses have become organised as a result of a dispute. The pos...
If the Minister gave me any positive indication of what he was going to do I would not take up the time of the House in having a vote on this amendment. I suggest, with the utmost respect, that neit...
I accept the Deputy's advice. The Minister should take on board the arguments which have been advanced and come back on Report Stage with an amendment. There is no point in the Minister hanging his ...
Perhaps I ought to accept that. The Minister may be somewhat tentative but that may be more, because like the rest of us, he does not know quite what is the answer. I am prepared to take him at good...
I am withdrawing it but reserving my position for Report Stage in the hope that the Minister and his advisers will resolve that problem for me.
I also look forward to the Minister's explanation as I cannot see any reasonable reason for not accepting one or other of the amendments. I do not mind which one is accepted. I would draw the oppos...
If the Minister is not accepting this I want to say briefly that I support the amendment by Deputy Quinn which is rather neatly drafted and which I would urge the Minister to take on board. Section 1...
I fully appreciate that but I suggest that they are connected because one deals with criminal conspiracy and the other deals with the liability to civil conspiracy of a third party who may be damaged ...
Did we take amendment No. 38 with amendment No. 19?
I move amendment No. 20: In page 7, subsection (2), line 50, after “actionable” to insert “in tort”. This amendment goes back to the question we have been dealing with concerning the implications of t...
The thrust of this amendment has already been tested in the vote on the previous amendment; therefore, it would not be correct that I should spend more time on it so I withdraw it. Amendment, by leave...
I am not entirely convinced by that argument. It is ironic that the 1906 Act, born out of the anti-union climate at the beginning of the century, is less restrictive than what is proposed in the Bill...
May I intervene to put it on the record of the House that I utterly and absolutely reject the disgraceful remarks made about me by the Minister's colleague, Deputy Jacob, during the debate on the Fina...
Private Members' Business. - Industrial Relations Bill, 1989: Committee Stage (Resumed).
I think the thrust of Deputy Mitchell's remarks is wrong in terms of regretting the Minister not availing of this opportunity to tighten up the law on picketing. As was pointed out before the adjourn...
The law will apply to Congress unions also.
I am not so sure it would be a good idea for us to legislate on the basis of what has happened in Dublin Port over the past 70 years.
These are very reasonable amendments. The amendment in the names of Deputy O'Sullivan and myself is somewhat neater than that of Deputy Mitchell. I agree with the thrust of what Deputy Mitchell is s...
I would like to make a similar point but I do not want to delay the business. I would like to have an opportunity to study how precisely the Minister claims that the situation we talked about is prov...
I move amendment No. 26: In page 8, subsection (2), lines 15 and 16, to delete “it is reasonable for those who are so attending to believe” and substitute “those so attending believe”.
I do not think, almost 12 hours after we started the debate on the Bill, that there is any point in spoiling the ship for a hap'orth of tar. As the Minister has admitted, this section is the nub of t...
At the IMI Conference, I thought.
I beg the Minister's pardon. I thought I saw him driving in an open——
I am frequently proud of the Minister and, therefore, he should be all the more amenable to my point of view because it is an extraordinarily partisan section otherwise.
I suppose, to coin a phrase, one could say that Deputy Bell and myself are representing the SIPTU tendency here but I do not think this would make our arguments any less valid. I cannot understand how...
Very little disruption may be caused because a group of companies could so order their affairs that the strikers would be entirely impotent and could not so picket. This would happen without referrin...
If Deputy Mitchell believes—and I accept that he does, and thank him for his support on our Private Members' Bill to which he referred — that this subcontracting phenomenon is something about which we...
It would not permit one prosecuting a dispute against, say, Campbells Catering, the new company, because then the only people who may picket here are those who have a reasonable belief that the new em...
Written Answers. - AIDS Education.
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