O'Shea, BrianWednesday, 10 June 1992 |
Dáil Éireann Debate
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Regional Technical Colleges Bill, 1991: Committee Stage (Resumed).
The Minister indicated last Thursday that he was willing to take this amendment on board. I will not delay by addressing it further, except to compliment the Minister on his openness to improving the...
I, too, welcome this amendment. However, the whole area of equity needs to be looked at. Equity has many faces. Gender equity has been dealt with by a number of speakers and it is something to whic...
On the matter of “chairperson”, it may very well be that people who developed their attitudes in a certain culture may look on “chairperson” or “chairwoman” in a certain context. However, I prefer to ...
Obviously the Minister is going some way to meet the fears which a number of Members expressed on Second Stage and Committee Stage. However, section 7 relates to the functions of the governing bodies ...
I should like to deal with a point raised by Deputy Ahearn in regard to reportage back to the vocational education committees. As I understand the system, there is provision for reporting back to the...
Section 14 (2) states: “The governing body shall supply to the Minister and to the vocational education committee with the agreement of the Minister...”. In other words, if the vocational education c...
I move amendment No. 90: In page 8, subsection (1) (b), line 20, after “order” to insert “of the vocational education committee”. This section deals with the dissolution of the governing body, the doo...
I, too, would like clarification from the Minister on this section. Is a lawful order as presented in the Bill an order of the Houses of the Oirechtas? Are regulations of the Minister regulations that...
I move amendment No. 91: In page 8, subsection (1), line 23, to delete “after consultation with” and substitute “on a recommendation of”. This amendment also relates to the possibility of dissolving t...
There is need for further clarification. As the word “consultation” appears in this section it is open to wide interpretation. Could it mean, for instance, that an official of the Department could t...
The word “consultation” would certainly be applicable where, for instance, the governing body of a college were in breach of statute. Consultation would obviously take the form of the Minister gettin...
I move amendment No. 94:
I move amendment No. 95:
The Minister has responded in a way that is helpful and constructive. He has indicated that he will be looking at the whole section on Report Stage. On that basis I will withdraw the amendment and w...
With amendment No. 96a, we have reached a fundamental point. Obviously this amendment did not emanate without consultation. As I understand it there was not, up to this morning, any consultation wit...
I accept that the Minister did meet representatives of the IVEA last Wednesday. However, it must be stressed that the amendments make profound changes to the Bill. The Bill now before us, with the a...
I shall move ahead as you have directed, a Leas-Cheann Comhairle. We are dealing with the Committee Stage of the Bill. I should like to make a brief comment by way to introduction to a point I wish t...
I seek your indulgence to elicit further clarification. Will the Minister explain whether this change, by the inclusion in section 9 of the term “chief accounting officer,” has changed the thrust of ...
I move amendment No. 98: In page 9, subsection (2), line 5, to delete “determined” and substitute “approved”. I do not want to delay the House. I understood from earlier contributions by the Minister...
In terms of selection boards will the Minister inform the House what exactly is intended by the Department regarding putting selection boards in place? Will he comment on the proposed membership and ...
Will the Minister inform the House whether there is any question of the local appointments commission having any role regarding an appointment to the college?
I move amendment No. 99:
I have a major difficulty in relation to the use of the word “appointed” in the section which states that “each college shall have an academic council appointed by the governing body ...”— the phrase ...
I move amendment No. 113: In page 10, subsection (1) (b), line 29, to delete “determined” and substitute “approved”. I thought the Minister had intimated that he was in favour of that amendment.
Might I have that position clarified by the Minister?
In view of assurances which I understand were given the Teachers Union of Ireland on matters that arose out of these amendments, I do not now have any particular problem. I will wait until the Minis...
Certainly I would support that principle of natural justice just outlined by Deputy Higgins. I should like to refer to one matter briefly, that is the definition of officers and servants of the colle...
I find myself at a loss at this stage. Obviously, the amendments before us are very important and crucial in relation to the staffs of the colleges. A very pertinent point was raised by Deputy Higgi...
One final point of clarification—the conciliation and arbitration system as it exists for the colleges at present involves the IVEA as representing the employers' side, so to speak, in the context of ...
When the Minister talks about an amending scheme is he talking about regulations or orders introduced by the Minister that would arise from this legislation or is he talking about further legislation ...
What the Minister is proposing here is progressive and I thank him for coming a long way down the road to meeting the concerns that were expressed here. These teaching apprenticeships as previously ...
I take that as clarification that these people will in no way be used, so to speak, as cheap lecturers; that they will be completely removed from the budget allocated to the college each year.
I move amendment No. 134: In page 11, subsection (1), lines 44 to 52, to delete paragraph (b). This amendment seeks to delete section 12 (1) (b) which deals with the provisions in relation to existing...
Dublin Institute of Technology Bill, 1991: Committee Stage.
I too am somewhat baffled by these amendments. Amendment No. 6 reads: In page 4, subsection (3), lines 29 and 30, to delete “and shall become a College of the Institute or be amalgamated with an exis...
The answer given by the Minister of State does not clarify the matter as raised by the Deputies on this side of the House. Both the amendments, the amendments to section 3(2) and section 3 (3) delete...
I am still not clear about the definitions and the explanation I sought from the Minister. I shall put my questions in a different form. Under the Bill as amended could a new college of the institut...
When we were discussing the regional colleges Bill I asked for clarification of what “membership” entails. It seems to me that “membership” is just a national honorary title which does not have any r...
I ndáiríre, níl mé. Níl aon rud agam i gcoinne ailt 4 ach chun an fhírinne a rá, tá sé ráiméiseach é a bheith istigh. It is not really of any great consequence having this section here. There are n...
This amendment is also in my name. When one realises that there are over 5,000 apprentices and craft technician students attending the Dublin Institute of Technology colleges one becomes aware that a...
That undertaking on the part of the Minister would be acceptable except that there is a point that needs to be underlined here. There are 24,000 students enrolled in the Dublin Institute of Technolog...
The Minister has gone a long way towards meeting the concern of the Opposition in relation to these amendments. Even though I have tabled amendments to section 5 (1) (d) and (f) I contend that the Mi...
When the Minister says that is something that will be debated later on as well, do I take it that on Report Stage of the Regional Technical Colleges Bill and the Dublin Institute of Technology Bill he...
I support the points made by the previous speakers. I am not going to repeat the arguments put forward by other Deputies. I wish to refer to the Minister's amendment No. 22 which seeks to amend sect...
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