Order of Business.

Wednesday, 14 October 1992

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 423 No. 5

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The Taoiseach: Information on Albert Reynolds  Zoom on Albert Reynolds  It is proposed to take Nos. 1, 7, 16, 17, 2 and 3. It is also proposed, notwithstanding anything in Standing Orders, that: 1. Nos. 1 and 7 shall be decided without debate. 2. The proceedings on the Committee and Remaining Stages of No. 16, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion at 7 p.m. by one Question which shall be put from the Chair, and which shall in relation to amendments include only those set down or accepted by the Minister for Agriculture and Food. 3. In the case of the Second Stages of Nos. 2 and 3: (i) The opening speech of the Minister or Minister of State and the speeches of the main spokespersons nominated by Fine Gael, Labour and the Democratic Left shall not exceed 30 minutes in each case; (ii) The speech of each other Member called on shall not exceed 20 minutes; and (iii) The Minister or Minister of State shall be called upon to make a speech in reply not exceeding 15 minutes. 4. The time limits set out in 3 (ii) and 3 (iii) shall apply to the resumed debate on item No. 17. 5. Private Members' Business shall be No. 22 and the proceedings thereon shall be brought to a conclusion at 8.30 p.m.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Are the proposals [1070] for dealing with Nos. 1 and 7 satisfactory and agreed? Agreed? Are the proposals for dealing with Committee and Remaining Stages of No. 16 agreed? Agreed. Are the proposals for dealing with the Second Stages of Nos. 2, 3 and 17 agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with Private Members' Business agreed? Agreed.

Mr. J. Bruton: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  Has the Taoiseach considered extending the parliamentary timetable for consideration of the three constitutional referenda in view of the fact that Ireland is an adherent to the European Convention on Human Rights, of the fact that the European Court of Human Rights will be issuing a judgment on the information issue affecting Ireland on 29 October, and that both the Dáil and the Seanad would wish, in the interests of drafting the most effective and durable wording, to have had sight of this judgment before finalising the wording?

The Taoiseach: Information on Albert Reynolds  Zoom on Albert Reynolds  The Government will consider that judgment in the normal way when it comes out.

Mr. J. Bruton: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  Would the Taoiseach not agree that at that stage the Dáil and the Seanad will, according to his timetable, have completed consideration of the referenda and that it will be too late to take anything that the judgment may say affecting the wording of the referenda into account? Is it not unwise that he proposes to finish parliamentary consideration of these three matters on the very day the European Court will issue its judgment?

The Taoiseach: Information on Albert Reynolds  Zoom on Albert Reynolds  Both the Deputy and the House are well aware of the time table required to fulfil the obligations of the Constitution to hold a referendum on 3 December. That is the agenda and it will be pursued.

Mr. Farrelly: Information on John V. Farrelly  Zoom on John V. Farrelly  Is that for Christmas shopping purposes?

Mr. J. O'Keeffe: Information on Jim O'Keeffe  Zoom on Jim O'Keeffe  Why is 3 December set?

[1071]An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Order, please Deputies. I am calling Deputy Spring and he must be heard.

Mr. Spring: Information on Dick Spring  Zoom on Dick Spring  In view of the importance of Friday's Special European Summit may I ask the Taoiseach if he will take the opportunity to outline to this House the Irish Government's priorities in relation to that meeting? I suggest it might be more appropriate if the Taoiseach would do that in this House rather than at the briefing for journalists on Thursday.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  It is one not strictly for the Order of Business.

The Taoiseach: Information on Albert Reynolds  Zoom on Albert Reynolds  I should like to point out there are a number of questions on today's Order Paper dealing with that subject, some of which are from the Deputy's own party.

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  In view of the statement made by Mr. Maurice Doyle, Governor of the Central Bank, may I ask the Taoiseach whether it is the Government's intention either at national or European level to seek measures to have currency speculation restricted either by——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Deputy De Rossa, that is clearly not a matter for the Order of Business. The Deputy will have to raise it in another way.

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  It is a serious matter——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  It may well be serious and that is all the more reason it should be dealt with in the proper manner by way of question or motion.

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  ——for people in this country, and what action do they intend to take?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Deputy De Rossa, resume your seat. I am calling Deputy Quinn.

[1072]Mr. Quinn: Information on Ruairí Quinn  Zoom on Ruairí Quinn  May I ask the Minister for Finance, through you Sir, if the discussions which are ongoing with the various financial institutions in this city have been completed in respect of the second Finance Bill; and when we in this House, to which we have been democratically elected, will see that Bill?

The Taoiseach: Information on Albert Reynolds  Zoom on Albert Reynolds  I answered that question in the House yesterday. I expect it to be before the House early in November.

Mr. J. Bruton: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  For the sake of clarification and in regard to the Taoiseach's earlier reply, am I to take it that the Government propose to ignore entirely the European Court of Human Rights' judgment?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I am afraid we are having repetition now, Deputy Bruton.

Mr. J. Bruton: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  Why has the Taoiseach chosen an artificial date, which is prior to the issue of this judgment to conclude consideration of the matters in question here, in view of the relevance of this judgment?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  The Deputy can raise this matter in another way. Deputy Pat Rabbitte has been offering.

Mr. J. Bruton: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  Did the Taoiseach know that this was going to happen?

The Taoiseach: Information on Albert Reynolds  Zoom on Albert Reynolds  No.

A Deputy:  Obviously.

(Interruptions.)

Mr. J. Bruton: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  Did the Attorney General tell——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Please, Deputy Bruton. Let us hear Deputy Pat Rabbitte.

Mr. Rabbitte: Information on Pat Rabbitte  Zoom on Pat Rabbitte  Now that he has been denied three times at Dublin Castle, may I ask the Taoiseach if he is going to go [1073] ahead with his appearance on 19 October or whether——

Mr. Farrelly: Information on John V. Farrelly  Zoom on John V. Farrelly  It will interfere with the Christmas shopping.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I thought Deputy Rabbitte had a responsible question to put.

The Taoiseach: Information on Albert Reynolds  Zoom on Albert Reynolds  I hope the Deputy is there to hear my answers; I look forward to meeting him there.

(Interruptions.)

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I am proceeding to the business as ordered.

Mr. Harte: Information on Patrick D. Harte  Zoom on Patrick D. Harte  I seek your guidance, a Cheann Comhairle. Yesterday I tried to table a Private Notice Question about the difficulties traders in Border areas are experiencing as a result of the devaluation of sterling. In view of the deep concern being experienced by people along the Border, will the Government make a statement to show that there is some light at the end of the tunnel——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  If the Deputy consults my office we shall be of the utmost assistance to him in dealing with this matter in the appropriate way. I am calling Deputy Byrne.

Mr. Harte: Information on Patrick D. Harte  Zoom on Patrick D. Harte  I should like the Government to make a statement on this issue.

The Taoiseach: Information on Albert Reynolds  Zoom on Albert Reynolds  I dealt with this issue last week.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Deputy Eric Byrne has been called.

Mr. Harte: Information on Patrick D. Harte  Zoom on Patrick D. Harte  It is not——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Please, Deputy Harte.

Mr. Byrne: Information on Eric J. Byrne  Zoom on Eric J. Byrne  With regard to promised legislation, the bus competition Bill is no longer included in the list. Has that Bill been scrapped or it is still in the pipeline?

[1074]The Taoiseach: Information on Albert Reynolds  Zoom on Albert Reynolds  It is still in the course of preparation.


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