Treacy, SeánWednesday, 1 February 1995 |
Dáil Éireann Debate
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Request to move Adjournment of Dáil under Standing Order 30.
Before coming to the Order of Business I propose to deal with a notice of motion under Standing Order 30 from Deputy Noel Dempsey. I now call on Deputy Dempsey to state the matter of which he has giv...
Having considered the matter fully I do not consider it to be one contemplated by the Standing Order and, therefore, I cannot grant leave to move the motion. I understand further that the Minister fo...
I am sure the Deputy will find ways and means of raising this matter in the proper fashion.
Order of Business.
Is the proposal for dealing with the Order of Business this evening satisfactory and agreed? Agreed.
The matter adverted to by the Deputy is not in order. It is not one for the Order of Business and should be dealt with as a serious matter in a more formal way.
It is a serious matter and it should be taken seriously.
I have ruled on the matter. Does the Taoiseach wish to intervene?
I want to dissuade Members of the notion that we can debate this matter now.
Clearly we cannot do so. I will hear a brief question from the two Deputies who have offered and I will then proceed to other business.
Not on this subject, Deputy. I will hear nothing further on this subject.
Deputy Leonard may not raise the matter now.
Sorry, Deputy, you are not in order. You will resume your seat.
Contempt Bill, 1995: Order for Second Stage.
Since this is a Private Members' Bill, the Second Stage must, under Standing Orders, be taken in Private Members' time.
Order of Business (Resumed).
I have allowed the Deputy to raise the matter with the Taoiseach. We cannot debate it now.
I should not lead to argument. As I said earlier, there are many ways of raising this matter and the Chair will facilitate Members in doing so. There was reference to flooding on the Adjournment deb...
Deputy Dempsey knows full well that he has posed a question to the Taoiseach.
The Deputy should put down the question.
I would be most reluctant to accept such a position.
I have outlined to members the way to proceed in this instance. I am calling Deputy Séamus Brennan.
I am calling Deputy Séamus Brennan.
No, Deputy; Deputy Séamus Brennan has been called.
If Deputy Brennan does not offer I will not——
Sorry Deputy, I have called your colleague, Deputy Brennan.
This is disorderly, Deputy Dempsey. The Deputy may not dominate proceedings at this time. I have called Deputy Séamus Brennan.
Is Deputy Brennan going to offer?
The Deputy is clearly out of order. He should resume his seat.
When I call you, Deputy Brennan, I expect you to respond, otherwise I will call another Member.
It is a good question and the Deputy should put it down as such.
The Order of Business has become untidy, to say the least. I am proceeding to other business quite promptly. (Interruptions).
Deputy Dempsey seems to be dominating our proceedings this morning.
It would not be tolerated, Deputy.
I will not tolerate argument on the Order of Business.
Let us hear the Taoiseach. The interruptions are coming from both sides of the House.
Family Law Bill, 1994: Report and Final Stages.
Due to a typographical error in lines 8-11 of amendment No. 84 in the name of the Minister for Equality and Law Reform on the green list of amendments, dated 25 january 1995, the words “for a consider...
Amendments Nos. 48 and 73 are related and it is proposed to discuss both amendments together. Is that agreed? Agreed.
Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Government Appointments.
I am concerned about naming a person from outside this House who has no redress against accusations made against him in this privileged assembly.
Let us not compound matters. Question No. 3.
I have called the next question.
I have already called Question No. 3. I want to deal with other questions.
Question No. 3. I am sorry, Deputy Harney, the Chair considers that these questions have been adequately dealt with. I am proceeding to Question No. 3.
Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Taoiseach's Meetings with President.
I am concerned that the President should be brought into controversy in the House.
I am anxious to facilitate the Deputy in most matters but I am sure she will have regard to what I have said, that the President should not be drawn into controversy in this House.
I am sorry, Deputy, I will allow no further reference to the President. I am calling question No. 6.
Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Constitutional Review Group.
We should proceed by way of questions, not statements.
Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Forum for Peace and Reconciliation.
We should avoid a repeat of this morning's discussion on that matter. This question deals with the continuation of the Forum for Peace and Reconciliation.
I wish to advise the House that we shall be obliged to proceed to deal with priority questions at 3.30 p.m., in accordance with the procedures laid down by this House.
Ceisteanna—Questions. Oral Answers. - Strategic Management Initiative.
It must be a brief question, Deputy. The time has come to deal with priority questions.
I said that the time has come to deal with priority questions. In accordance with our procedure, 20 minutes must be available for this purpose.
The Deputy will be facilitated.
Heritage Council Bill, 1994 [Seanad]: Instruction to Committee (Resumed).
This motion has already been considered and decided by vote. I feel sure Members will have an opportunity of commenting on matters as the Bill progresses. We are now going into Committee Stage; of c...
The matter of the motion re the Heritage Council Bill, 1994, has been decided by this House. The Deputy may have a further opportunity to comment as we go through the Bill but not now.
Please, Deputy de Valera, you know you are out of order now. I am now proceeding to deal with the Heritage Council Bill, 1994, Committee Stage.
We have disposed of the contentious matter by way of the democratic process of this House.
The House has decided that matter. I am now proceeding to Committee Stage and section 1 of the Bill.
Heritage Council Bill, 1994 [Seanad]: Committee Stage.
Amendment No. 1. I am asking that we debate amendments Nos. 1, 14 and 18 together.
Deputy de Valera, I very much resent that you should interrupt the Chair in the process of addressing the House. This is totally disorderly.
I repeat, Deputy de Valera, it is very wrong and totally disorderly to interrupt the Chair when he is standing and addressing the House. Will the Deputy please allow the chair to proceed?
I am now calling section 1, amendment No. 1 and suggest that we take amendment Nos. 14 and 18 together. Is that satisfactory?
The record of this House in so far as my jurisdiction is concerned will show that I respect points of order but invariably they transpire to be points of disorder.
My office is at the Deputy's disposal if he wishes to pursue those matters but I am now insisting that we proceed with Committee Stage of the Bill. Mr. Lawlor rose.
I am sorry, Deputy Lawlor, I am permitting no further points of order.
I have heard that so often, Deputy; it is a matter of obstructing the Chair. However, I will hear the Deputy. I am getting tired of obstruction.
Deputy Lawlor, will you allow the business of this House to proceed and the Minister to move amendment No. 1?
Deputy Treacy, this is disgraceful conduct.
My office does not engage in any initiation of such matters.
This is downright obstruction.
No, I have called the Minister.
The Deputy has made his point. I am calling on the Minister to move his amendment No. 1.
Amendment No. 3, Amendment No. 6 is consequential and amendments Nos. 9 and 17 are related. I suggest that we discuss amendments Nos. 3, 6, 9 and 17 together. Is that agreed? Agreed.
We now come to amendment No. 4. I observe that amendment No. 5 is related and suggest that we discuss amendments Nos. 4 and 5 together if that is satisfactory. Agreed.
Pursuant to Standing Order 100 (3), I have to report specially to the Dáil that the Committee has amended the Title to read as follows: AN ACT TO PROMOTE PUBLIC INTEREST IN AND KNOWLEDGE, APPRECIATION...
When is it proposed to take Report Stage?
Private Members' Business. - Crime Prevention and Detection: Motion (Resumed).
Deputy Martin was in possession. I take it Deputy Noel Ahern is resuming in lieu of Deputy Martin who has 13 minutes remaining.
That is satisfactory and agreed.
I must ask the Deputy to address his remarks through the Chair rather than directly to any Members and, in particular, the Minister.
I am sure that is satisfactory. Agreed.
Adjournment Debate. - Flooding and Storm Damage.
I heard Deputy Flanagan on this subject last night without interruption.
Adjournment Debate. - Reporting of Sexual Abuse.
I am concerned about the mention of names in the House for obvious reasons. This is a privileged Assembly.
I am not concerned about what happens outside this House; I am concerned about the proceedings of this House.
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