Order of Business (Resumed).

Thursday, 8 February 1996

Dáil Éireann Debate
Vol. 461 No. 3

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An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  We proceed to the business of the House proper.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  On a point of information, you said, Sir, you would come to a conclusion on the matter of the [651] advertisement, or no advertisement. I have here a document——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Deputy Andrews, the matter does not arise now. There is a substantive motion before the House. Doubtless, the Deputy will avail of an opportunity of speaking on that motion. The Committee on Procedure and Privileges is also seized of the matter. It does not arise now.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  Well, Sir——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Deputy Andrews, I must ask you to desist from any further reference to the matter.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  I am resisting; you can take it that I am resisting Sir.

The Taoiseach: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  Persisting.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Thank you, Deputy, please resume your seat.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  All I am seeking to do, Sir——

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Please resume your seat, Deputy Andrews.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  Sir, I do not want to be thrown out and I have to speak in the budget debate.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I have always known the Deputy to be fair-minded in such matters. I must now ask him finally to resume his seat.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  May I ask you, Sir, for permission to put this on the table of the House for the delectation of the Chair in coming to his decision as to whether this is an advertisement?

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I need no advice from you, Deputy, in respect of this matter. We know how the matter is [652] proceeding. Let it proceed in accordance with the rules of this House.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  Sir, I am being helpful to the House.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Deputy Andrews, I am asking you for the last time to resume your seat.

Mr. Briscoe: Information on Ben Briscoe  Zoom on Ben Briscoe  I have been a Member of this House for 31 years. Quite honestly, I have never seen anything like the abuse of this House by the Minister for Social Welfare, Deputy De Rossa, this morning.

Minister for Social Welfare (Proinsias De Rossa): Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  What about the beef tribunal?

(Interruptions.)

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I am now proceeding to item No. 9 — Financial Motions by the Minister for Finance— on the Order Paper. I see Deputy O'Malley offering.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  Sir, when is an advertisement not an advertisement?

(Interruptions.)

Mr. D. Ahern: Information on Dermot Ahern  Zoom on Dermot Ahern  I notice the Minister for Social Welfare has found his voice for a change.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  When is an advertisement not an advertisement?

(Interruptions.)

Mr. J. Walsh: Information on Joe Walsh  Zoom on Joe Walsh  The Minister for Social Welfare is a liar.

(Interruptions.)

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  Sir, on a point of order, Deputy Walsh should withdraw that remark; he must withdraw that remark.

Mr. E. Ryan: Information on Eoin Ryan  Zoom on Eoin Ryan  The Minister for Social [653] Welfare said the same thing of the bishop.

(Interruptions.)

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  A Cheann Comhairle, I insist that Deputy Joe Walsh withdraw that remark.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  There was such a commotion in the House I did not hear the remark. I am calling Deputy O'Malley.

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  Everybody on this side of the House heard him say I am a liar.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I have said, and I am fearless in these matters, I heard no so such remark, Minister.

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  Sir, everybody on this side of the House heard him say I am a liar.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I am calling Deputy O'Malley.

Mr. O'Malley: Information on Desmond J. O'Malley  Zoom on Desmond J. O'Malley  May I inquire of you, Sir——

(Interruptions.)

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  You are a pathetic bunch of liars.

Mr. Andrews: Information on David Andrews  Zoom on David Andrews  Taoiseach De Rossa, sit down; Taoiseach De Rossa, resume your seat.

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  Sir, that man opposite, the cause of the beef tribunal, accused me of being a liar. I intend taking this to the Committee on Procedure and Privileges.

(Interruptions.)

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  Deputy Eoin Ryan does not have a single political idea in his head, he is pathetic; Daddy's boy.

[654]An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I must say I have not observed such gross disorder in this House for a very considerable length of time. If it persists, I will have no option but to adjourn our proceedings.

(Interruptions.)

Proinsias De Rossa: Information on Prionsias De Rossa  Zoom on Prionsias De Rossa  What about the beef tribunal?

Mr. J. Walsh: Information on Joe Walsh  Zoom on Joe Walsh  Ceausescu, the Minister for Social Welfare, has been found out.

Mr. E. Ryan: Information on Eoin Ryan  Zoom on Eoin Ryan  Ceausescu's pal.

The Taoiseach: Information on John Bruton  Zoom on John Bruton  Of the 166 Members, Deputy Joe Walsh is the last who should make such an allegation.

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  Unless these interruptions cease forthwith I will have no option but to suspend the sitting.

(Interruptions.)

An Ceann Comhairle: Information on Seán Treacy  Zoom on Seán Treacy  I have no option but to suspend the sitting for 15 minutes.

Sitting suspended at 11.7 a.m. and resumed at 11.22 a.m.


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