O'Hanlon, RoryThursday, 28 November 2002 |
Dáil Eireann Debate
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Request to move Adjournment of Dáil under Standing Order 31.
Before moving to the Order of Business, I propose to deal with a notice of motion under Standing Order 31 from Deputy Cuffe and I call on him to state the matter.
Having given the matter full consideration, I do not consider it to be contemplated by Standing Order 31 and therefore I cannot grant leave to move the motion.
Order of Business.
There are three proposals to be put to the House. Is the proposal for dealing with Nos. 14, 13, 14a and 12a without debate agreed?
We cannot discuss the spatial strategy here.
I have allowed the Deputy to make his point.
If the Deputy feels strongly about it, the matter can be referred to the Committee on Procedure and Privileges.
The Deputy will have the opportunity to discuss the content of the spatial strategy document. Just a brief point on why the Deputy is opposing the Order of Business.
Before I call the Tánaiste, Deputy Rabbitte's point on No. 12b will be taken on item 3.
The Chair is speaking. Will Deputy Allen please resume his seat.
On Deputy Sargent's point about Deputy Cuffe, his request under Standing Order 31 was not in accordance with Standing Orders. That is why it was ruled out of order. I call the Tánaiste.
Deputy Allen, I have called the Tánaiste. I will take the point of order after the Tánaiste and before I put the question, assuming it is a point of order.
Deputy, withdraw the remark.
The Deputy did not ask. I said before I call the Tánaiste—
The Chair will not be challenged on this issue. The Chair has ruled. The Deputy will withdraw the remark that there are double standards in the House.
A point of order does not come first. I called the Tánaiste.
Will Deputy Allen please resume his seat when the Chair is on its feet.
Deputy, resume your seat. Now withdraw your remark that there are double standards.
If the Deputy wants to ask me a question he can come to my office. Will the Deputy withdraw the remark that there are double standards.
Thank you. I call the Tánaiste.
The Tánaiste without interruption, please.
Deputy Higgins, allow the Tánaiste without interruption, please.
I call Deputy Allen on a point of order, assuming it is a point of order.
That is not a point of order. The Deputy will have to find another way of raising it.
Sorry, it is not a point of order, Deputy. The Chair has ruled on it.
Is the proposal for dealing with the European Communities (Amendment) Bill, 2002, agreed? Agreed. Is the proposal for dealing with item 12b without debate agreed? Deputy Rabbitte raised a point on tha...
Is that agreed? Agreed.
On legislation, Deputy. I am finishing the Order of Business.
That is not about legislation.
I have only 20 minutes and I am trying to facilitate as many Members as possible.
Sorry, Deputy, it must also be related to the Order of Business.
This is the third time this week that the Deputy has raised an issue that is not appropriate to the Order of Business.
A question appropriate to the Order of Business.
The Deputy must ask about promised legislation.
That matter has been dealt with twice this week. We must move on.
That matter has been answered twice this week. The Deputy is being repetitive.
Deputy Ó Caoláin is out of order. Deputy Costello on something appropriate to the Order of Business.
A number of Deputies are offering and they cannot all be facilitated if we spend time with preambles.
The Deputy has not asked a question.
To what Bill is the Deputy referring?
It is down to be taken today, Deputy Costello.
The Deputy must ask about promised legislation.
That matter is not appropriate to the Order of Business.
The Deputy is anticipating questions that will arise this afternoon as Deputy Burton has a question down to the Minister for the Environment and Local Government in that regard.
Deputy Gormley on promised legislation.
That matter was already dealt with this week. The Deputy is being repetitive. The rules as applied to Deputy Ó Caoláin apply to Deputy Gormley also.
That matter is not appropriate to the Order of Business.
It is a matter of proportionality. There is nobody who knows more about that than the Deputy.
I do not intend reading Standing Order No. 26 again this morning. Many of the contributions made this morning, as Deputies know, are not in accordance with Standing Order No. 26. We must have order in...
Deputy Gormley must resume his seat when the Chair is speaking. (Interruptions).
Does Deputy Gormley wish to leave the House?
Resume your seat, Deputy Gormley and show some respect for the Chair.
The Deputy is out of order.
A question, please.
It is appropriate to ask about a Bill; it is not appropriate to make a Second Stage speech.
The Tánaiste has replied to that question. We are moving on to the next business. (Interruptions).
A number of Members wish to raise specific items. We cannot have a Second Stage debate on every item the House would like to discuss. Members should confine themselves to questions appropriate to the ...
The Deputy is being disorderly. His question was answered in accordance with Standing Orders.
The Chair has no control over the answers given.
The Deputy is out of order.
My apologies.
What legislation is proposed on transport?
When is justice legislation promised?
The Deputy has made his point.
The Deputy's colleague, Deputy Allen, says the Chair decides those matters.
A question related to promised legislation please.
Is the Criminal Justice (Garda Powers) Bill promised legislation?
The Deputy should allow the Tánaiste to reply.
No question was asked on legislation.
I have to finish the Order of Business shortly. There are a number of Deputies with questions and I cannot take them all this morning.
Will the Deputy ask a question appropriate to the Order of Business?
The Deputy was doing extremely well asking questions about legislation and he should not spoil it now.
Has the Deputy a question on legislation?
That does not arise. The Deputy will have to find another way of raising it. Is there a question on legislation?
If the Deputy has not got a question appropriate to the Order of Business we will move on.
Has the Deputy a question appropriate to the Order of Business?
It is not necessary to make a statement on the Bill. The Tánaiste to reply.
The Deputy is out of order. I will take one more Deputy. Deputy Healy.
I called the Tánaiste and I would like the Deputy to give her an opportunity to answer.
In accordance with long-standing precedent in the House, 20 minutes—
Before Deputy Rabbitte goes any further, I do not have a side of the House. The Chair is impartial and represents all sides in the House.
The Deputy is well aware of it.
It is a long-standing precedent in the House, and each of my predecessors ruled, that 20 minutes is appropriate for the Order of Business.
There are many rulings on this matter and if the Deputy wishes to discuss them he can come to my office. I call Deputy Seamus Healy. (Interruptions).
I will not discuss the matter with the Deputy. If he wants to come to my office I would be glad to discuss it with him.
I call Deputy Seamus Healy.
Promised legislation to abolish County Tipperary does not arise on the Order of Business.
That may be so, but, as I have pointed out, in accordance with precedent there is other business to be dealt with. Deputies complain every morning about business not being done in this House. Much of ...
There are any number of rulings in this House—
If the Deputy wishes to come to my office— (Interruptions).
Numerous rulings were made by my predecessors.
There are numerous rulings. It is not possible for 165 Members of the House to ask questions each morning on any item in which they are interested. (Interruptions).
It is not in order for the Deputy to comment at this stage.
The Chair has absolute discretion in the matter and that has always been the case. My predecessors ruled on the matter.
The Deputy should realise that the Chair is fair. I am trying to be fair to all Members of the House.
If all Deputies confined themselves to the substance of Standing Orders, every Deputy would be heard within 20 minutes.
That is not a point of order.
That is not appropriate to the Order of Business, it has already been discussed.
We are moving on to item No. 14.
It has been dealt with.
This has been dealt with. The Tánaiste dealt with it this morning. (Interruptions).
We will hear Deputy Kenny.
The Deputy should bring the matter to the sub-committee on Dáil reform.
My immediate predecessor in the Chair did not take questions on the Order of Business from everybody who offered.
The Tánaiste answered that.
We cannot have everybody on their feet at the same time. Deputies should resume their seats.
I will have to ask the Deputy to leave the House. We cannot have Members jumping up.
I ask the Deputy to resume his seat. We cannot have everyone on their feet. (Interruptions).
Ciúnas. Deputy Stagg on a point of order. I hope it is a point of order.
The Tánaiste without interruption.
Order please. I call Deputy O'Sullivan.
Deputy Lynch will please resume her seat.
The Chair will not take a point of order while it is on its feet. Deputy Allen should resume his seat. We must have order in this House. When the Chair is on its feet, all Members resume their seats.
Members will speak when they are called upon by the Chair. We cannot have everybody standing up and speaking at the same time. The Chair may be left with no option but to ask somebody to leave the Cha...
I am not taking a point of order. Deputy Allen will resume his seat. That is not a point of order. Deputy Allen will be first to leave the House if he does not resume his seat. I have called Deputy O'...
There is no need for the Deputy to make a statement on what she wishes to see in the legislation.
European Communities (Amendment) Bill, 2002: Second Stage.
That is not a point of order.
It is not a matter for the Chair.
The House is at the—
The second stage must conclude by one o'clock and the remaining stages by 1.30 p.m.
Private Security Services Bill, 2001: Second Stage (Resumed).
Deputy Durkan must be allowed to speak without interruption.
Allow Deputy Durkan to speak.
Will the Minister of State allow the Deputy to make his contribution.
Allow the Deputy to make his contribution.
The Deputy has made his point about the Minister of State. If he did not attribute so many features to the Minister of State but concentrated on the Bill he might not provoke interruption.
I suggest the Deputy look at the Chair and not at the Minister of State.
Ceisteanna – Questions. - Priority Questions.
Deputy Allen has not yet arrived. We will give him 30 seconds and then proceed to the next question.
Ceisteanna – Questions. - Housing Grants.
The six minutes allowed for this question have concluded.
The Deputy asked a second supplementary and the Minister replied. Question Time is, unfortunately, confined because of a Private Notice Question.
Ceisteanna – Questions. - Local Authority Housing.
Allow the Minister of State to conclude. We have to move on to the next question.
Ceisteanna – Questions. - Environmental Policy.
Sorry, Deputy, we have already spent over six minutes on the question. I have already ruled on Deputy Gilmore's question.
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