O'Hanlon, RoryWednesday, 5 March 2003 |
Dáil Eireann Debate
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Leaders' Questions.
The Tánaiste without interruption, please.
The Tánaiste should not reply to the Deputy as he is not the leader of his party.
Allow the Tánaiste to continue without interruption.
Deputy Burton is not the leader of her party. Deputy Rabbitte alone is entitled to ask a supplementary question.
The Tánaiste without interruption.
I call Deputy Joe Higgins.
Allow Deputy Joe Higgins to speak without interruption.
Allow Deputy Higgins to continue without interruption, please.
I call the Tánaiste for a final reply.
Deputy Higgins, allow the Tánaiste to conclude. (Interruptions).
That concludes Leaders' questions. We now move on to questions to the Taoiseach.
Question No. 97 is in the name of Deputy Joe Higgins.
Deputy Higgins, I have just called your question to the Taoiseach. The Minister of State to reply.
We cannot have a point of order on leaders' questions.
Deputy Stagg, during leaders' questions we cannot have a point of order from any Member other than the leader asking the question.
Leaders' questions are confined exclusively to leaders. I have called the Minister of State.
The Chair has no control over a Minister's replies.
We are dealing with Deputy Joe Higgins's Question No. 97.
Sorry, Deputy Higgins, this is Leaders' Questions. Only Deputy Joe Higgins is involved.
Ceisteanna – Questions. - Central Statistics Office.
Ciúnas.
The Chair has already called for quiet.
We cannot return to leaders' questions.
We cannot have a discussion on Leaders' Questions, which has long since passed.
We are on Questions Nos. 97 to 99.
We cannot have a discussion on that.
We have not reached Question No. 101.
No, I have already repeated to the Deputy that we are dealing with Questions Nos. 97 to 99.
I stated that in the last 30 seconds.
We have not reached that question.
We have not reached Question No. 100.
Ceisteanna – Questions. - Census Figures.
The Deputy should allow the Minister of State to reply.
Ceisteanna – Questions. - Figiúirí Dhaonáirimh.
I am sorry, Deputy, but we have gone long over time.
Requests to move Adjournment of Dáil under Standing Order 31.
Before coming to the Order of Business I propose to deal with a number of notices under Standing Order 31. I call on the Deputies in the order in which they submitted their notices to my office.
Having considered the matters raised, I do not consider them in order under Standing Order 31.
Order of Business.
There are two proposals to be put to the House. Is the proposal for dealing with item No. 18 agreed to?
Deputies should allow the Tánaiste to speak without interruption.
The Tánaiste without interruption.
I ask the Tánaiste the address her remarks through the Chair, rather than invite interruption. Deputy Richard Bruton on a point of order.
The Tánaiste without interruption. I appeal to the Tánaiste to address her remarks through the Chair.
Is Deputy Rabbitte pressing his amendment?
That issue can be raised on the Bill itself. At this stage we are merely discussing—
We cannot have a debate on that at this stage. I call Deputy Rabbitte. (Interruptions).
The Chair has ruled. Sorry Deputies, we cannot have a discussion on this matter at this stage. The Chair is ruling that what we are discussing at this moment is the proposal for dealing with No. 18, c...
Deputy Rabbitte has an amendment.
On the information that the Chair has, it arose on Committee Stage.
The information that Chair has in regard to the Minister's amendment is that it arose on Committee Stage.
We cannot have a discussion on it now, Deputy Bruton. The Chair has ruled. Deputy Bruton on a point of order.
I have the amendment before me and I will put it to the House shortly. The House will decide. (Interruptions).
Deputy Burton must allow the Tánaiste to speak without interruption.
Deputy Rabbitte's amendment changing the time to 7 p.m. is in order. We are putting the amendment in the name of Deputy Rabbitte. Question put, “That the figure proposed to be deleted stand.” The Dáil...
The Deputy will have to withdraw the—
Deputy, I must ask you to withdraw the reflection on the impartiality of the Chair.
On your own behalf, Deputy, not on behalf of the Labour Party.
Deputy, on your own behalf, you must withdraw the allegations against the Chair.
As the request has come from a teller who was nominated for that division, I request the Clerk to ring the division bells. Question: “That the figure proposed to be deleted stand.” again put. Tá
Is proposal No. 2 for dealing with item 7, conclusion of Second Stage of the Motor Vehicle (Duties and Licences) Bill 2003, agreed to?
I would prefer if the Minister did not intervene because we have moved on from that item. We are now dealing with the proposal for dealing with the conclusion of item No. 7, Second Stage of the Motor ...
If Deputy Rabbitte addressed his remarks through the Chair, he might not invite interruption from the Minister.
I ask the Minister to allow Deputy Rabbitte to continue without interruption.
I remind Deputy Quinn that only Deputy Rabbitte is entitled to speak at this point.
We cannot discuss the content of the legislation at this point.
We cannot have a debate on the Freedom of Information Act, which is at present before the other House and will be coming to this House, when we can debate it fully.
That may arise when it comes before this House.
I call Deputy Rabbitte.
You have made the point and should allow the Tánaiste to reply.
You will have to find another way of dealing with the second issue.
Has the Deputy a question on proposed legislation?
We cannot discuss the content of legislation.
I suggest the Deputy submits a parliamentary question to the appropriate Minister.
It would be more appropriate to submit the second question to the Minister for Finance.
We have dealt with that issue.
It is appropriate to ask whether legislation might be brought forward. The legislation is before another House. It is very unusual for this House to debate legislation which is before the other House.
The matter does not arise at this stage.
I suggest the Deputy submits a question on the issue to the Minister.
There are other ways of dealing with the matter.
I call Deputy Sherlock.
That is not a point of order.
We want to move on to Report Stage of the Finance Bill.
That is not a point of order. We are on the Order of Business.
I ask the Deputy to resume his seat and allow Deputy Sherlock to speak.
Allow Deputy Sherlock to speak.
The Chair must operate according to Standing Orders.
The Tánaiste can answer questions which are appropriate to the Order of Business.
I fully appreciate that.
The Deputy is being grossly unfair to Members who wish to debate the Finance Bill. I call Deputy Sherlock.
I will force the Deputy to leave the House if he does not resume his seat.
The Deputy must resume his seat. I call Deputy Sherlock.
I ask the Deputy to obey the Chair.
It is not relevant to the Order of Business. I ask the Deputy to resume his seat.
That is a reflection on the Chair. I ask the Deputy to withdraw the remark.
The Deputy must withdraw the remark or leave the House.
I ask the Deputy to leave the House.
The Chair has ruled. I call Deputy Sherlock.
The Chair has dealt with the matter and the Tánaiste has answered the question.
That decision has been made. The Deputy is not entitled to contribute further. Deputy Durkan agreed to leave the House.
If the Deputy does not leave, I will move that he be suspended from the House.
Suspension of Member.
I move: “That Deputy Durkan be suspended from the service of the Dáil.” Question put.
In accordance with Standing Orders, the division will take place at the beginning of business tomorrow. Deputy Durkan withdrew from the Chamber.
Message from Select Committee.
The Select Committee on Social and Family Affairs has completed its consideration of the Social Welfare (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2003, and has made no amendments thereto.
Finance Bill 2003: Report Stage (Resumed) and Final Stages.
We cannot discuss the contents of the amendment. On the question of recommitting the relevant section of the Bill—
According to the information available to the Chair, this amendment arises out of Committee Stage proceedings. The House can decide whether it wishes to recommit this section to be debated on Committe...
Is the Minister opposing the proposal?
It is agreed that amendment No. 26 be recommitted.
No, that decision has already been made by the House. The question now arises as to whether the Chair is obliged to take the amendments seriatem. If Members do not want to press their amendments, we c...
No, the House has agreed to recommit the section in question to when we reach it. We are about to resume on amendment No. 12. I must take the amendments seriatim. However, if the Members who proposed ...
When we reach amendment No. 26. If we were to dispose of the preceding amendments—
On amendment No. 12, is Deputy Ó Caoláin agreeable that we put the question at this stage?
Amendment No. 20 is in the name of Deputy Bruton. Amendment No. 93 is related. It is necessary to recommit this amendment as it creates a charge on the Exchequer. Bill recommitted in respect of amendm...
The Bill, which is certified to be a money Bill in accordance with Article 22.2.1º of the Constitution, will be sent to the Seanad. Sitting suspended at 1.45 p.m. and resumed at 2.30 p.m.
Private Members' Business. - Services for the Elderly and People with Disabilities: Motion (Resumed).
Allow the Minister of State to continue without interruption.
That is agreed.
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