Smith, Michael

Thursday, 15 May 2003

Dáil Eireann Debate
Vol. 566 No. 5

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Order of Business.

The Order of Business today shall be as follows: No. 1a, Redundancy Payments Bill 2003 [Seanad] – Second and Subsequent Stages; No. 2, Garda Síochána (Police Co-operation) Bill 2003 [Seanad] – Second ...More Button

I understand that the calendar issued last September has not changed. There are plenty of opportunities for Deputies anxious to make contributions to do so here. I reject out of hand Deputy Rabbitte's...More Button

If the Members opposite wish to examine the record of this House to find out who wastes time, they will not have to look too far. Question put: “That the proposal for dealing with Friday's sitting be ...More Button

The Estimate is coming before the committee. I do not have any further information.More Button

It was discussed at the committee last week.More Button

The second Bill to which the Deputy refers will be published this session. He will be pleased to note that the employment permits legislation was enacted a month ago.More Button

I will communicate with the Deputy.More Button

The Bill to which the Deputy referred is under review and is expected to be published in 2004. With regard to his first question, that is an operational matter for the Garda Síochána.More Button

I indicated that the legislation was under review and was likely to be introduced in 2004.More Button

The heads of the Bill are expected at the end of this month.More Button

The first matter raised by the Deputy can be discussed between the Whips at the appropriate time. Work on the Bord Bia Bill has been virtually completed and the heads of the Bill will be ready this se...More Button

If that is all the Deputy has to worry about he is all right.More Button

I have already informed Deputy Rabbitte that the heads of the Bill will be ready at the end of this month.More Button

As I speak without notes, I am open to correction but, as the Deputy knows, the Government is pursuing a number of actions to deal with this particular issue.More Button

Pardon?More Button

Is the Deputy the prince of pretence? This matter is being actively pursued in the appropriate way.More Button

It is an answer. The question was not on legislation.More Button

No legislation is contemplated at this stage.More Button

There is no legislation contemplated at this stage.More Button

I have already indicated to the House that no legislation is promised in this area. It is a well known fact that active consideration is being given to the question of access to land to enable the dev...More Button

Local authorities do not build houses, builders do.More Button

To be as helpful as I can to the Deputy, there is nothing new in the proposal to dispose of State lands for housing. As Minister for Defence, I have disposed of lands to local authorities from my prop...More Button

There is nothing new about what was said.More Button

Deputy Sherlock is correct to say the Bill remains on the Order Paper. As the Deputy knows, a successful pilot scheme I helped to introduce is disposing of the outstanding claims speedily and affordab...More Button

Please allow me to speak. Should it happen that anything different occurs in terms of the pilot scheme and the remaining 2,000 claims to be disposed of, we will consider reintroducing the legislation ...More Button

—go off the rails in any way.More Button

It looks like Kilkenny is winning again. The Bill will be taken this session.More Button

I will communicate with the Deputy directly, but my understanding is that there is no promised legislation in this regard. As the Deputy knows, the scheme itself is working satisfactorily and many pat...More Button

I have already indicated that there is no primary legislation and that I would communicate with the Deputy on that matter. I do not have an exact date.More Button

I have no promised legislation in the area.More Button

It is not required.More Button

The Deputies can cycle away on that one.More Button

The building control Bill will be published late this year.More Button

This session.More Button

The Minister is not proceeding with that Bill. A review is currently under way and it may be the autumn, but I do not have further information.More Button

If legislation is required it will be introduced, but we do not have any further information.More Button

I said that no legislation is promised.More Button

For the third time – and Deputy Rabbitte heard me on each of the other occasions – there is no legislation promised this session.More Button

There is absolutely no question that the Government benefits from an exercise of this type. I have only one proviso. As Deputy Higgins will know, there are times when it would not be appropriate to sh...More Button

Ceisteanna – Questions. Priority Questions. - Overseas Missions.

Was asked: if there are plans to amend the Defence Acts to enable the Defence Forces to participate in peacekeeping missions that are sanctioned and supported by the EU, though not by a UN resolution; and if he ...More Button

Ireland's commitment to collective security is pursued through the United Nations which has the primary role to play in the maintenance of international peace and security. The UN possesses no standin...More Button

As I said in my reply, I am anxious that the legislative situation would not prevent us from participating. There are two fundamental principles, the first of which is the democratic position, under w...More Button

It has been made clear on a number of occasions by the Taoiseach and others what the true legal situation was regarding Iraq and the fact that we were not facilitating the war in any way.More Button

We want to make sure that the authority of the UN is not undermined and I am satisfied that there is no prospect of changing the legislative base for facilitating action by our troops in different par...More Button

Ceisteanna – Questions. Priority Questions. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: when it is intended to acquire medium life heli copters, following the cancellation of the order in 2002 and, in view of the clear need for appropriate aircraft to allow the Air Corps to carry out the...More Button

The decision to cancel the tender competition for the acquisition of medium lift helicopters for the Air Corps in July 2002 was taken due to budgetary constraints which meant that the level of defence...More Button

I stand over my statement that morale in the Air Corps has never been higher. Deputy Wall has been out to Baldonnell, but if Deputy Sherlock had the time to visit he would see the type of investment t...More Button

There is obviously quite a misunderstanding here, because the amounts of money which are being provided for the trainer aircraft will probably end up being significantly higher than those for ministe...More Button

Ceisteanna – Questions. Priority Questions. - Ministerial Transport.

Was asked: the way in which he can justify replacing the Government jet with two jets, in view of the fact that aviation experts agree that the G4 ought to have, under normal circumstances, many more years of pr...More Button

I propose to take Questions Nos. 3, 28 and 45 together.More Button

Thank you, a Leas-Cheann Comhairle. The Government has decided to replace both the Gulfstream IV and the Beechcraft King Air in the ministerial air transport role. The Gulfstream IV is not being repla...More Button

Nobody is wining and dining the Government. The business of the procurement will be done under the tightest of scrutiny and in the safest way I can achieve for the benefit of the people. In 1991, when...More Button

The Deputy cannot have it both ways. He cannot say the aircraft is in perfect condition and then make the argument that it was used in some way that has exhausted its capacityMore Button

It is a reliable aircraft. I do not know what the outcome to the tender process will be, whether it will be sold in that context or whether it will be retained, but we will find the best possible path...More Button

If the Green Party got its way, in a modern business world we would not talk to nobody.More Button

We would not do any business. We hear views all the time and we will continue to hear them and neither the Deputy nor anybody like him will paralyse us. We will do this in a proper way for the benefit...More Button

Ceisteanna – Questions. Priority Questions. - Cash Escorts.

Was asked: the total financial cost incurred by his Department in providing armed escorts for the movement of cash by the major banks within the country; and the financial reimbursement made by the banking insti...More Button

The roles of the Defence Forces as assigned by Government are set out in the White Paper on Defence which was published in February 2000. To aid the civil power – meaning in practice to assist, when r...More Button

Members of the Defence Forces already have 2,000 pistols and I am delighted the Deputy wants to make sure they are given another 6,000 to 8,000, but I do not know what he would want to do with them.More Button

They are in perfect working order. The Deputy would be in mortal danger if he sat and asked anyone to try them out on him. I would not do that. The Deputy is obviously more ready for execution than I ...More Button

I know that, on Question Time, there is probably nothing wrong with exaggerating the position. However, to suggest that the funds provided by banks to the Department of Defence only pay for diesel is ...More Button

I am anxious to see if I can obtain more.More Button

Ceisteanna – Questions. Priority Questions. - Defence Forces Reserve.

Was asked: if it is intended that the FCA unit in Athenry, County Galway, will be maintained at its present strength; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

On 15 January 2003 I approved in principle the report of the Reserve Defence Forces Review Implementation Board for the implementation of the recommendations of the special steering group on the reser...More Button

The amalgamation of the 18th and 25th infantry battalions will have a consequent reduction in the number of companies. The proposal will in effect concentrate efforts and training resources in Athenry...More Button

No, because in the context of the reserve, I said I wanted to maintain the geographical spread. There are many isolated areas where people would be too far from the main centre and I therefore want to...More Button

Other Questions. - Army Equitation School.

Was asked: the reason the budget of the Army Equitation School has been reduced by a quarter; and his views on whether this cutback will impact adversely on its development.More Button

The mission of the equitation school is to promote the Irish non-thoroughbred horse. The school has discharged this task with considerable distinction down the years. Through its participation in eque...More Button

When I became Minister for Defence, it would be fair to say that the equitation school was under fairly mortal threat. I saw to it that additional resources would be provided for the very purpose whic...More Button

As far as the equitation school is concerned, I have a fairly significant role to play in terms of determining its Estimate. I do not have the same role in determining the aspect which has been raise...More Button

That conference alone will cost €110,000. This is part and parcel of the responsibilities of Government which the Deputy will have experienced when he was in Government. There are times when we say th...More Button

I did not say there was only one cadet. There are two bursaries but I did not say there was only one cadet.More Button

As I explained earlier, this is not a cutback. There were a couple of years where I tried to lift the Estimate for the equitation school by a very substantial amount to do very specific work. We now h...More Button

Other Questions. - Defence Forces Strength.

Was asked: the current strength of the Army, Naval Service and Air Corps; his plans for the strength of each in the future; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

Was asked: the total number of personnel and the total number of female personnel broken down by rank at the latest date for which figures are available in respect of the Army, the Naval Service and the Air Corp...More Button

Was asked: if it is intended to reduce the overall number of members of the Defence Forces as part of the Government's decision to reduce overall public service numbers; and if he will make a statement on the ma...More Button

Was asked: the current and projected strength of the Army, Naval Service and Air Corps; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

Was asked: the degree to which current military strength is adequate to provide protection for vital installations throughout the country; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

Was asked: the extent to which it is intended to increase or decrease the strength of the Army, Naval Service and Air Corps; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

I propose to take Questions Nos. 7, 16, 29, 47, 51 and 53 together.More Button

I do not like dealing with rumours but I intend to maintain Defence Forces numbers this year at 10,600. Any question of reducing the numbers by a further 1,000 is nonsense and should be dealt with as ...More Button

As Deputy Wall knows we were coming from a hopelessly low figure. I am sometimes reluctant to say how much the situation has improved because of the very low base from which we came. The numbers have ...More Button

Recruitment is open. We have had discussions with representative associations to extend recruitment outside the country. The negotiations have not been concluded but we do not have recruitment problem...More Button

Other Questions. - Defence Forces Career Plan.

Was asked: when the promised new career development plan for the Defence Forces will be introduced in regard to the commitment given in An Agreed Programme for Government; the main features of the plan; and if h...More Button

A draft integrated personnel management system, or IPMS, has been prepared by the military authorities and is being considered by the Department's civil-military strategic management committee. The IP...More Button

When I launched the White Paper on Defence, I anticipated that we would be further advanced than is the case, even though intensive work is currently taking place to bring the matter to a fruitful con...More Button

Other Questions. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: the reason it has been decided to defer the planned replacement of old FN pistols for the Defence Forces; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

I am advised that the Defence Forces have conducted studies and technical trials with a view to considering the requirement to replace the Browning 9mm semi-automatic pistol which is currently in serv...More Button

When Deputy McGinley and I were talking earlier, Deputy McGinley was shooting from the hip. The position is not as Deputy Wall suggests. Overall, we put all programmes under scrutiny, as we should. Fr...More Button

This is not a saving. Our Estimates provide for spending millions on equip ment and improving accommodation for the Defence Forces so this is insignificant in that context. In this case the military h...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: his views on whether it is acceptable that up to half of the Air Corps helicopters can be grounded on occasions due to maintenance problems; the steps being taken to replace aircraft with serious reli...More Button

The Air Corps operates a number of different helicopter types, which in turn operate in a wide variety of roles. The operational demands on these helicopters increase in intensity as the summer months...More Button

Written Answers. - Departmental Expenditure.

Was asked: the basis on which it is proposed to more than double the expenses for military entertainment to ?440,000 in 2003.More Button

The increased funding has been provided mainly to meet additional costs expected to arise in the following areas: meetings and visits relating to the EU Presidency and from our membership of PfP; and...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: if it is intended to proceed with the plans to acquire a fleet of light armoured vehicles for the Defence Forces; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

The Defence Forces commenced a programme to acquire Mowag APC/light armoured vehicles in 1999. To date 40 of these vehicles have been received and a further 25 are scheduled for delivery in 2004. The ...More Button

Written Answers. - Common Foreign and Security Policy.

Was asked: the discussions he has had with his European counterparts in the context of European defence and security matters, such as co-ordination of military training and hardware; and if he will make a statem...More Button

I refer the Deputy to my reply to Questions Nos. 89 to 91, inclusive, of 2 April last, when I reported on the discussions which had taken place at the informal meeting of Defence Ministers held in Ath...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Accommodation.

Was asked: the progress made in his Department's dis cussions with Kildare County Council with a view to resolving the accommodation difficulties of overholders in living accommodation in the Curragh Camp; and i...More Button

Personnel on being discharged from the Permanent Defence Force are obliged to vacate married quarters within a short period of the dates of their discharge. There are, however, more than 50 married qu...More Button

Written Answers. - Health Monitoring.

Was asked: if his Department has put in place, or intends to put in place, an ongoing system of health monitoring for former members of the Defence Forces.More Button

There are no proposals to put in place an ongoing system of health monitoring for former members of the Defence Forces. Recently retired members of the Defence Forces, who had served either in the Bal...More Button

Written Answers. - Reserve Defence Forces.

Was asked: the progress made to date with regard to the implementation of the report of the Ministerial steering group on the Reserve Defence Forces; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

On 15 January 2003 I approved, in principle, the report of the Reserve Defence Forces Review Implementation Board for the implementation of the recommendations of the special steering group on the Res...More Button

Written Answers. - European Rapid Reaction Force.

Was asked: if depleted uranium and cluster bombs will be part of the armaments available to the European Rapid Reaction Force; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

The Defence Forces do not posses armaments of the type referred to by the Deputy. It is an inevitable fact that in war, the use of all armaments by combating forces can result in horrendous consequenc...More Button

Written Answers. - Ministerial Air Transport Service.

Was asked: the progress made to date with regard to the Government's plans to acquire new aircraft for the Ministerial Air Transport Service; the number of responses received to the invitation to tender; the est...More Button

The Government decided to replace the Gulfstream IV and the Beechcraft King Air in the ministerial air transport role. The decision was necessary to meet the ever increasing demands of Government busi...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: the latest position regarding the acquisition of Mowag armoured personnel carriers for the Defence Forces; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

A contract was signed on 30 November 1999 for the supply by Mowag of Switzerland of 40 armoured personnel carriers APCs, initial spares, special tools and training courses. The 40 vehicles, known as P...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Security.

Was asked: the investigation which has been held into the circumstances in which a suspected pipe bomb was found inside the perimeter of Gormanstown Army camp; if a review of security has been undertaken at the ...More Button

On 15 April 2003, an improvised explosive device (IED), a pipebomb measuring 15cm long and 5cm in diameter, was observed on a grassy area inside the perimeter of Gormanston Camp by a member of the Def...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Personnel.

Was asked: the main features of the revised policy on procedures and interpersonal relationships in the Defence Forces launched by him on 9 April 2003; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

On 9 April 2003 I launched the revised Defence Forces Administrative Instruction A7 Chapter 1 entitled, Interpersonal Relationships in the Defence Forces. A guidance booklet and easy reference card we...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Recruitment.

Was asked: the steps being taken to facilitate the commissioning of more NCOs in the Defence Forces as officers, especially having regard to the Feely report; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

The position on this matter has not changed since I replied to this question six weeks ago. A total of 31 non-commissioned officers have been commissioned as officers in the Army, Air Corps and Naval ...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Personnel.

Was asked: if it is intended to introduce legislation to allow members of the Defence Forces the right to strike; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

My position on this matter has not changed since I replied to this question six weeks ago. For the Deputy's benefit, I will repeat what I stated on 2 April last, namely that I believe to amend the Def...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: his plans to purchase helicopters on behalf of the Defence Forces; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

Was asked: his views on whether the Air Corps is adequately equipped, financed and manned to fulfil its functions; and the progress which has been made in implementing the recommend ations of a review by a compa...More Button

I propose to take Questions Nos. 25 and 26 together. The Deputy is aware that efforts were made in the recent past to acquire medium lift helicopters for the Air Corps with the holding of a tender com...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Accommodation.

Was asked: the progress made to date in regard to the proposed transfer of the Civil Defence School from Dublin to Roscrea; if he has plans for further decentralisation of any part of his Department; and if he w...More Button

The Deputy will be aware that, in the context of the White Paper on Defence, the Government decided to decentralise the Civil Defence branch of my Department to Roscrea, County Tipperary. The Office o...More Button

Written Answers. - Ministerial Transport.

Was asked: the reason for the decision to replace the Gulf Stream IV jet having regard to figures showing that the aircraft had a very high level of availability, including a 99.26% level of availability during ...More Button

Was asked: his views on whether the G4 jet has at least 30 years productive life left in it and that it is premature to replace this aircraft; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

I propose to take Questions Nos. 28 and 45 together. The Government decided to replace both the Gulfstream IV and the Beechcraft King Air in the ministerial air transport role. The decision to replace...More Button

Written Answers. - Benchmarking Process.

Was asked: the position regarding the discussions with representative organisations about the benchmarking report; the allocation which has been made within his Department's Estimates for 2003 to pay the benchma...More Button

Members of the Defence Forces are prohibited from belonging to trade unions and their representative associations are not affiliated to ICTU. This means the associations do not participate directly in...More Button

Written Answers. - Drug Tests.

Was asked: the number of members of the Defence Forces by rank who have been subjected to random drug testing since the procedure was introduced; the number of positive tests; the action which has been taken fol...More Button

Drug abuse has long been recognised as a serious and escalating problem in our society. While there have been relatively few instances of drug related problems within the Defence Forces, it is recogni...More Button

Written Answers. - Ministerial Meetings.

Was asked: if he will report on the EU Chiefs of Defence meeting on 7 May; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

On 7 May a meeting of the EU Military Committee at the level of Chiefs of Defence was held in Brussels. Such meetings are normally held on one occasion during each EU Presidency, usually in advance of...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Recruitment.

Was asked: the number of applications received for membership of the Defence Forces arising from the recruitment campaign launched in February 2002; the number of applications accepted; the number of recruits cu...More Button

In 2002 a total of 4,234 applications were received for consideration for positions in the Permanent Defence Force. Of this figure, 2,750 were applications for general service recruitment. As a result...More Button

Written Answers. - Asbestos Exposure.

Was asked: the extent to which concern regarding asbestos exposure among members of the Naval Service has been and is being addressed by his Department.More Button

I am advised that all Naval Service personnel are screened for asbestos related illness as part of their annual medical examinations. Following a survey of the fleet in late 1999, a small quantity of ...More Button

Written Answers. - Departmental Properties.

Was asked: if the contract for the sale of Clancy Barracks, Dublin, has been concluded and signed; the conditions attached to the sale of the property; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

My Department has accepted an offer from Florence Properties Limited for the barracks. The process of effecting first registration on the title to this property in the Land Registry has recently been ...More Button

Written Answers. - Hearing Impairment Claims.

Was asked: the total number of claims for damages for deafness determined in court or settled out of court at the latest date for which figures are available; the total amount paid out to date in terms of damage...More Button

By 30 April a total of 16,598 claims had been received in my Department from current and former members of the Defence Forces in respect of loss of hearing allegedly caused during their military servi...More Button

Written Answers. - Fishery Protection.

Was asked: his plans to expand the State's fishery protection capability; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

The State's fishery protection capability, as provided by my Department, is through the Naval Service and the Air Corps. The Naval Service is equipped with eight vessels, comprising one helicopter car...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: the total cost of Pilatus trainers from Switzerland for the Air Corps; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

On 18 January a contract was signed for the supply of eight turbo propeller training aircraft for the Air Corps. These aircraft will replace the Siai Marchetti aircraft in the pilot training role. The...More Button

Written Answers. - Pension Provisions.

Was asked: if it is his intention to amend the Army pension scheme in line with the report of the Gleeson Commission in order that military service allowance for those who have retired prior to 1 August 1990 be ...More Button

The inclusion of military service allowance in the calculation of superannuation benefits for military personnel arose from a recommendation made in 1990 by the Commission on Remuneration and Conditio...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: the details of all decisions to cancel or defer the purchase of equipment for the Defence Forces since June 2002; the estimated savings to his Department of each cancellation or deferment; and if he w...More Button

The acquisition of new equipment for the Defence Forces has been a key focus for me since my appointment to the Defence portfolio. Significant investment has taken place and I am satisfied that the De...More Button

Written Answers. - Departmental Properties.

Was asked: if An Post sought permission or advice from his Department or any military authority before carrying out major changes to the interior of the post office in the Curragh Camp; if a decision has been ma...More Button

Neither my Department nor the military authorities were consulted by An Post regarding the changes carried out to the interior of the post office. The works were apparently considered necessary on sec...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: the extent to which equipment to counter a terrorist attack has been provided to the Army, Naval Service and Air Corps; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

The Defence Forces have put in place training and equipment procurement programmes to deal with terrorist attacks using chemical, biological, nuclear and radiological substances. The procurement progr...More Button

Written Answers. - Partnership for Peace.

Was asked: if he had discussions with his EU partners in recent times in the context of PfP and following the recently announced European security alliance; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

Was asked: his preferred options in respect of Ireland's involvement, in the context of European defence and security, in the aftermath of the recently announced defence alliance; and if he will make a statement...More Button

I propose to take Questions Nos. 48 and 57 together. The proposed European defence alliance referred to by the Deputy is the outcome of a multilateral meeting which took place on 29 April between Ital...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: the extent to which gas masks or breathing apparatus are available to the Defence Forces; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

At present the Defence Forces have approximately 15,000 respirators or gas masks. They form part of the normal issue to personnel on operational duties. Stocks of breathing apparatus are available as ...More Button

Written Answers. - Departmental Properties.

Was asked: the position in regard to the sale, lease or disposal or otherwise of the various military installations which were closed in 1998; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

The Government, on 15 July 1998, approved a programme of evacuation and sale of six barracks which are considered surplus to military requirements. The barracks in question are located at Fermoy, Cast...More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: the extent to which military equipment and hardware has been upgraded; his proposals for the future in this regard; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

The acquisition of new equipment for the Defence Forces has been a key focus for me since my appointment to the Defence portfolio. Significant investment has taken place and I am satisfied the Defence...More Button

Written Answers. - Overseas Missions.

Was asked: the number of Irish military personnel currently serving overseas; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

The total number of Defence Forces personnel currently serving overseas is 462. Full details are as listed in the tabular statement which is circulated with the Official Report. More Button

Written Answers. - Defence Forces Equipment.

Was asked: the regularity with which military aircraft are issued with a CoA; if this applies in the case of the Government jet; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

Was asked: the way in which it has transpired that the Government jet had a mechanical failure during the period within which a valid CoA applied; and if he will make a statement on the matter.More Button

I propose to take Questions Nos. 56 and 57 together.More Button


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