Order of Business.Wednesday, 3 November 2004 |
Dáil Eireann Debate
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The Taoiseach:
It is proposed to take No. 3, the Grangegorman Development Agency Bill 2004 — Order for Second Stage and Second Stage; and No. 4, the Road Traffic Bill 2004 — Order for Second Stage and Second Stage. Private Members’ business shall be No. 32, motion re child care (resumed), to conclude at 8.30 p.m.
An Ceann Comhairle:
There are no proposals to put to the House on the Order of Business.
Mr. Kenny:
I have two questions. Last week I raised the issue uncovered by Deputy Perry of persons over 70 who had received medical cards being charged for long-stay places in public institutions. The Taoiseach said the Attorney General was providing advice to the Government. Has that advice now been given, and, in line with what the Taoiseach said, will there be legislation based on it not already included in the published list?
The harbours Bill is due for publication in 2005. Can the Taoiseach state clearly when that might be produced?
[1043]The Taoiseach:
After Deputy Kenny raised the first issue last week, I spoke to the Attorney General and asked that whoever was dealing with the matter in his office try to quicken the process. He told me on Monday that he is examining the issue himself and will give final advice to the Government as quickly as possible. The heads of the harbour Bill have been prepared. It is to update the Acts of 1946 to 2000, but it will be published no earlier than next year, since the heads are not yet available.
Mr. Rabbitte:
Almost 600 people lost their jobs through the closure of the Irish Press. Does the Government intend to have the company investigated given last night’s programme about the company’s highly irregular governance——
An Ceann Comhairle:
That does not arise on the Order of Business.
Mr. Rabbitte:
——which, it is suggested, contributed to the eventual loss of employment? Might the situation of small shareholders, predominantly lifelong followers of the Taoiseach’s own party——
An Ceann Comhairle:
That is not a question on the Order of Business.
Mr. Rabbitte:
——be referred for assessment to the Office of the Director of Corporate Enforcement?
An Ceann Comhairle:
That is not relevant. The Deputy will have to find another way of raising the matter.
Mr. Costello:
How about a tribunal?
Mr. Sargent:
The Bills listed in section C are Bills in respect of which heads have yet to be approved, such as the Dublin metro Bill. The Taoiseach told us that Bill would be published in 2005 but recently said that we need not wait on the metro at all, so the purpose of the Bill remains a mystery.
An Ceann Comhairle:
Has the Deputy a question? This matter was dealt with yesterday on the Order of Business and again this morning.
Mr. Sargent:
Will the Taoiseach say when the Bill is to be published and what its meaning is? Is there a list of Bills which the Taoiseach does not intend to proceed with, such as the greater Dublin area land use and transport Bill, and the Transport Authority Bill, which I understand are now removed? It seems there are Bills with which the Government will not proceed and which are there only for show. Can we have that list?
The Taoiseach:
The policy objectives of the Dublin greater area land use and transport Bill can be addressed within the existing and proposed structures such as regional land use stra[1044]tegies, consistent with the national spatial strategy, the Dublin Transportation Office strategic transport planning, the establishment of an independent national public transport procurement and regulatory body and the metro Bill, which is designed to streamline and accelerate procedures metro projects and reduce costs. The Minister for Transport will bring forward his proposals on that in due course.
Ms Shortall:
There is still no co-ordination.
Mr. Durkan:
Will the Taoiseach say when we will have before us the Bill to convert the ESB into a plc and to update legislation in that area? When will the heads of the Bill be approved? Have they been considered? It is No. 16 on the list.
The Taoiseach:
The heads of this Bill have been approved by Government. I do not yet know when the Bill will ready. It will deal with the remaining regulatory and restructuring issues regarding the electricity industry and with converting the ESB under the Companies Act, but it is not on the schedule over the next few months.
Mr. Gilmore:
I asked the Taoiseach yesterday about organising a debate in the House on the report of the All-Party Committee on the Constitution, which dealt with the cost of building land, an issue referred to the committee by the Taoiseach. He told me that he would raise the matter of a debate with the Whips. Has he done so?
An Ceann Comhairle:
That does not arise.
Mr. Gilmore:
It arises from the answer I was given yesterday. I asked about a debate in the House. The Taoiseach said he would raise the matter with the Whips. Has it been raised with them?
An Ceann Comhairle:
The Deputy is entitled to ask only about debates that are promised in the House.
Mr. Gilmore:
Did what the Taoiseach say constitute a promise?
The Taoiseach:
I understand the Whips will meet this evening to discuss proposed debates.
Mr. Gilmore:
Will the Taoiseach be at that meeting?
Mr. Stagg:
On a point of order, it seems that the Whips have some supernatural power and can determine what the Government will allow on the clár of the House. That is not so. Without instructions from the Taoiseach, the Government Whip cannot on his sole authority arrange a debate.
[1045]An Ceann Comhairle:
That is not a point of order. The Chair knows nothing about what the Whips do.
Mr. Stagg:
The Taoiseach is being disorderly.
The Taoiseach:
I will raise another point of order. Whenever I try to exert speed into the passage of business, Deputy Stagg says, probably correctly, that I am trying to railroad through certain things and that the Whips should agree on these things. He cannot have it both ways.
Mr. Stagg:
Can we take it that the Taoiseach is waiting on the instructions of the Whips?
Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin:
Given the limited time remaining between now and the end of the year, does the Taoiseach anticipate that the Health Bill will have completed its passage in order to give effect to the new structures promised from 1 January 2005?
The Taoiseach:
The Bill is due and must be passed.
Mr. Neville:
I want to raise the issue of the Dormant Accounts Bill. We need a full discussion of dormant accounts because we have moved away from the original objective of the distribution of those accounts.
An Ceann Comhairle:
That does not arise. I suggest that the Deputy submits a question.
The Taoiseach:
The Bill is before the Seanad.
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
In reply to a parliamentary question last week to the Tánaiste and Minister for Health and Children regarding access to medical services for low-income families, I was informed by the Tánaiste that she was committed to——
An Ceann Comhairle:
Has the Deputy a question appropriate to legislation?
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
Yes, on promised legislation.
An Ceann Comhairle:
The Deputy should ask about the legislation. A preamble in advance of the question is not appropriate.
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
I accept that ruling but the Tánaiste said she was committed to the preparation of new legislation to update and codify the whole legal framework.
An Ceann Comhairle:
We are moving to the next business, No. 3, the Grangegorman Development Agency Bill 2004.
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
I will put a question on promised legislation. I promise to do so. The [1046]Ceann Comhairle might bear with me for a minute.
An Ceann Comhairle:
It comes straight to the legislation. The Chair rules on other Deputies and Deputy Cooper-Flynn cannot have a Standing Order for herself.
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
This is the problem. I cannot find reference to the matter in the legislative programme, but it has been promised by the Tánaiste and I will ask the Taoiseach about it if the Ceann Comhairle will just bear with me for one minute.
An Ceann Comhairle:
I will not bear with the Deputy for one minute. She must obey the Standing Order like everyone else.
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
How about 30 seconds?
An Ceann Comhairle:
If the Deputy has no question on legislation, we will move on.
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
As I understand it I am quite entitled under the Order of Business to ask a question on promised legislation. This is promised legislation.
An Ceann Comhairle:
The Deputy is entitled to ask a question in accordance with Standing Order 26. If the Deputy wishes the Chair to read out the Standing Order, the Chair will oblige.
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
I am aware of the Standing Order.
An Ceann Comhairle:
The Deputy cannot have a long preamble to a question on legislation. We must have orderly business in the House.
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
This is promised legislation.
An Ceann Comhairle:
What is the legislation?
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
I could have finished 30 seconds ago if the Ceann Comhairle had allowed me to continue. The legislation is to update and codify the legal framework for eligibility and entitlement with regard to the health services. When can we see that legislation? I thank the Ceann Comhairle for his patience.
The Taoiseach:
The only relevant legislation for this session is the health Bill. There is no other legislation.
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
The matter does not fall under the health Bill. It is not on the legislative programme. That is why I ask the question.
Ms Cooper-Flynn:
I will send a note to the Taoiseach’s office.
Mr. J. Higgins:
Once again this morning we have had a new definition of patience in the Dáil.
[1047]Is it acceptable that three building workers have to spend a night on a crane on a Gama Construction site in Clondalkin, to force their employers to pay their wages?
An Ceann Comhairle:
Has the Deputy a question on legislation?
Mr. J. Higgins:
Regarding the Building Control Bill, will the Taoiseach say when fly-by-night sub-contractors will be brought into line?
The Taoiseach:
The Bill will come before the House in 2005.
Mr. J. Higgins:
Is it acceptable that workers have to risk their lives?
Mr. Gogarty:
When will we have the third level students support Bill?
The Taoiseach:
I have not got a date for that.
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