L'Estrange, Gerald

Thursday, 24 July 1958

Seanad Éireann Debate
Vol. 49 No. 12

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Appropriation Bill, 1958 (Certified Money Bill) — Second Stage (Resumed) and Subsequent Stages.

I cannot say how long I shall be. It all depends on the other side of the House.More Button

Senator Stanford lectured the Seanad this evening on our general conduct and spoke about one Party blaming the other—the Party in power claiming credit for everything good which happened and blaming t...More Button

We can bring our minds back to 1924. Credit is due to the Cumann na nGaedheal Government for starting the Shannon Scheme, which the people on that side said then was a “white elephant”. To-day they ...More Button

They also realised it was the duty of the people to respect the lawfully-elected Government of the country. There was a time when they did not believe in that, but they have been converted and by be...More Button

You did. You stated that the Minister did not, nor did anybody, make the statement that I accused him of making in Carlow-Kilkenny.More Button

The Senator said that the Minister did not make the statement I accused him of making. In any case, Senator Lenihan asked last week for quotations to show that any Fianna Fáil man stated it. If he l...More Button

Then he went on to make a most damnable statement, when he was questioned last week.More Button

It is a report of 16th July, 1958.More Button

Deputy Corry gets up himself and says:— “I told the people that they would get 82/6 per barrel for their wheat and they believed it.” He is criticising his own Minister in Leinster House.More Button

Senator Lenihan asked last week for quotations.More Button

You did not.More Button

No. I have been asked to give them. Deputy Corry said:— “Deputy Dillon and some other Deputies passed remarks in this debate about certain statements made by me. I make no bones about this.” He was...More Button

Deputy Corry continued:— “That is my advice to the farmers ...I am taking my own steps about the matter and I am advising my own people about it.”More Button

I have given the Senator the volume and the column. “We are not helpless if we use our brains. The Lord has given us resources, and we have the means at the moment, so that even if every dama ship we...More Button

You have an overall majority and do not give a damn about the Irish people. You will be in power for another three years and can walk on them for the next three years.More Button

I do not mind what way I held up my hand. I held my head up in 1935. I fought against those who stood for lawlessness and tried to break up political meetings and did not stand for democracy. If yo...More Button

I do want to claim and I am not saying “I think” because Deputy Dillon stated it was in 1949—the Minister can ape Hitler as long as he likes.More Button

If I tell you about the 1930's, I will put you in your place. If Senator Lenihan wants to know the truth about the 1930's, his father was in the Free State Army and was Fine Gael at that time and he ...More Button

If we have no interruptions, I will stick to what I have to say. We heard a lot of talk about false promises. We all know that the Taoiseach went around the country at the time of the last general e...More Button

I apologised to the Chair for what I said in the heat of the moment. If I ever say anything here that I should not say I shall be man enough to come in and apologise. The Senator should apologise for...More Button

Both the Taoiseach at Belmullet and the Tánaiste in Waterford took the same line on the same date. We all know it was agreed what they were to say. This appeared in the Irish Press on the 1st March,...More Button

The Tánaiste said:— “Some Coalition leaders are threatening the country with all sorts of unpleasant things if Fianna Fáil becomes the Government—compulsory tillage, cuts in Civil Service salaries, hi...More Button

They reduced the subsidies by £11,000,000 and sent the cost of living up by 15 points. We also know that further promises were made. There were to be better times for all. There is very little sign o...More Button

The inter-Party Government came in in 1947 and the price of the loaf was 6½d. They went out in March, 1951, when the price was still 6½d. Fianna Fáil put the price up to 9d. in the 1954 Budget. Whe...More Button

All these things were done despite the promises made by the Taoiseach and other members of the Fianna Fáil Party. Yet we had the Taoiseach stating in the Dáil on February 26th that there was no evide...More Button

And in the constituency here in Dublin where they got 61 per cent. of the vote in the general election they got only 26 per cent. in the recent by-election. Despite the fact that they won the seat, t...More Button

Because it was a by-election they won the seat but if it were a general election there would be a different result from those figures and nobody knows that better than Senator Ó Maolain.More Button

We hear much about the confidence people have in Fianna Fáil, but if one goes to the SundayIndependent of June 1st, 1958, we find:— “‘People are tired of Fianna Fáil’ says Fianna Fáil delegate. “‘Peop...More Button

I do not know what letter Mr. Hartney may have sent when rapped on the knuckles by the Taoiseach or by Senator Mullins—— (Interruptions.)More Button

I think the Chair stated “as near to ten o'clock as possible”, but all the interruptions are only bringing fresh material to my mind. Speaking before the last election the Tánaiste said that unemploym...More Button

It is free speech all right, but it does not show you are living up to the promises you made at that time.More Button

Yes, “hear, hear”. It was due to the increased export of cattle, of carcase beef, of sheep and of pigs. It was due also to the increased price which cattle fetched on the British market. There is n...More Button

The Senator said it was due to industrial exports as a result of the courageous policy of the Government.More Button

I am not. The juggling——More Button

I should like to deal with another question, mentioned by Senator Prendergast, namely, the eradication of bovine T.B. Nobody can exaggerate the urgency of this task. It has been repeated over and ov...More Button

No agreement was come to. I said I wanted to speak. I might be finished now but for the way I was interrupted from the other side. However, I shall try to finish within the next ten minutes. I woul...More Button

I have not. I rose to speak at nine o'clock. I took a note of the exact time I started.More Button

I shall finish when I like and take no dictation from the Senator.More Button

Had I not been interrupted, I might have finished by now.More Button

We heard a lot about what the Fianna Fáil Government would do, if they got back, to restore employment and stem emigration. After a year's inactivity, the following steps were taken to create more une...More Button

They reduced the grant for private house building by £700,000.More Button

They cut the Gaeltacht housing grant by £27,000 and they cut the ground limestone scheme by £22,000 and imposed a freight charge of 4/- per ton. That is quite correct; that is not wrong. They cut th...More Button

Forestry development and improvement was cut by £130,000. They effected a decrease in the total moneys for forestry of £36,000. They cut the urban employment schemes by £60,000. They abolished food...More Button

I will quote from the debate, column 444, Volume 49:— “Mr. Barry:... What precise difference will there be between tea merchants who do not join this company and who import tea from the East and who h...More Button

This is one of the greatest examples of Tammany Hall methods we had in this country.More Button

I will stand over it. Those people are asked to pay 3d. extra for every lb. of tea. If that is not a racket, I do not know what is.More Button

On a point of order, the figures are not wrong. Any figures I gave are taken from official statistics.More Button


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