Lenihan Snr., BrianWednesday, 30 July 1975 |
Seanad Eireann Debate
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The last point made is a very valid one. Indeed, the points made by Senator Dolan are very valid also, in this respect, that while nobody has any objection to the inclusion of the agricultural indust...
If that is the ruling of the Cathaoirleach, I will be glad to do it later, but——
It might be more appropriate to take it on the Title itself, or on the section to which the amendment now relates. If that is the view of the House——
I would prefer to deal with it later in detail, because I think——
I am obliged to the Cathaoirleach, because that clarifies the matter. At least it is a warning signal to the Minister that this is of very real concern, because it is in this area too that the £12 pe...
Because in areas of manufacturing industry—and this is the point I want to make here—it leads up to the point which is directly on——
I was proceeding to make the valid point, when the Cathaoirleach interrupted me, with all due respect, that in regard to manufacturing industry there are high wage rates involved. Therefore, the £12 ...
The point again applies in regard to agriculture—and this is the point I was making initially—that where there is an agricultural wage rate at about £30 per week, it will be very difficult to stimulat...
The last comment of the Minister makes the Bill even less effectual than we thought it was. Indeed our whole criticism is not in anyway carping. It is about the reality of this and even if it results...
The Minister is not answering the main point, which is that precisely the most productive work the farmer can do during these winter months is work around his own farmyard, increasing its efficiency, ...
The Minister conveyed the other impression a few minutes ago.
All work on the farm is associated with farming. Let us be clear about it. This is the question that Senator Dolan raised: as far as the operation of the scheme is concerned, will the employment pre...
And agricultural workers; every form of work on the farm relating to improving the productivity of the farm, even if it includes tradesmen being employed by the farmer or part-time tradesmen or neighb...
I am not talking about the huge industrialised farm. I am talking about the medium-size farm or the small farmer who may take on men for the period mentioned and be attracted by the premium and provi...
I am talking about people on unemployment assistance.
The Minister has no sense of the real situation in rural Ireland. I am not including here the industrialised farms of the eastern part of the country. I am talking about the whole of the midlands, t...
Things are looking better now.
It will be finished by 6 o'clock.
I referred to this matter on Second Stage. In the Minister's reply on Second Stage I presumed that he was referring to the cases mentioned by Senator Yeats. I am appalled that the flexibility he tal...
I shall not go into the technicalities of the amendment just referred to, but the basic thinking behind the Minister's decision is to exclude the agricultural sector from the necessity on the part of...
The point I am making is that under this section the consent of the Minister for Finance is still required in respect of manufacturing industries. In the amendment the Minister has correctly, althoug...
35,000.
With 35,000 and——
Thanks to the Social Fund of the EEC.
Surely Senator Yeat's point will become increasingly valid over the next 12 months if unemployment continues to rise at the same level as over the last 12 months. What the Minister has just stated in ...
Is the Minister quite serious?
As far back as 1973?
I appreciate the Minister's point. Undoubtedly the flat rate idea eases the administration of the scheme. Senator Yeat's amendment is the right one in principle, that it should be varied as a percen...
The Minister may do that. He is not tied to the £12 and £6.
A woman in the making up industry, for instance. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
On the Title, this concerns the principle to which I have already referred in the course of several amendments earlier. I should like to have a definitive statement from the Minister on this aspect. ...
Criminal Law (Jurisdiction) Bill, 1975: Report Stage.
I wish to support Senator Yeats on this amendment. The Minister and the House are well aware of my views on this difficult section, more particularly in regard to how it relates to section 11 (2). We...
It is in (d).
I am sorry. It is not in (d), sorry. It is in subsection 4 (a), the exchange section I was talking about. Subsection (4) provides: A person in whose case an order is made under subsection (2)— (a) ...
Senator O'Higgins diverted me there very skilfully. I was right in regard to subsection 2 (d). It says: while he is in custody in Northern Ireland for the purpose of the taking of the evidence... and...
It is in (d). I do not know what you describe the paragraph after 2 (d) as but it is there anyway.
Senator O'Higgins is technically right. I was reading it with subsection 2 (d). The point is valid that in section 2 (a) the reference is to the custody of the police in Northern Ireland and in the ...
Is this related to the amendment proposed on Report Stage?
It is not the Bill that is under discussion. It is a specific amendment on Report Stage.
This is a highly irresponsible filibuster.
Ministers of State do not do that sort of thing on Report Stage of their own Bill.
I got tired of that.
I hope the Chair will remember that when we start the same procedure.
This makes nonsense of all arrangements in regards to business in this House.
The Minister is not even coherent now. I do not blame him.
Are the Government serious about completing business before the holidays?
We do not expect that it will be completed by lunch time tomorrow.
They behaved in the same way as they behaved in regard to the national pay agreement. The same sort of irresponsibility. It is on their own head.
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