Irish Shipping Limited (Amendment) Bill, 1984: Committee and Final Stages.

Wednesday, 11 April 1984

Seanad Eireann Debate
Vol. 103 No. 9

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Question proposed: “That section 1 stand part of the Bill”.

Mr. M. O'Toole: Information on Martin J. O'Toole  Zoom on Martin J. O'Toole  Would the Minister like to indicate what the total exposure of Irish Shipping was in each of the calendar years of 1973, 1974 and 1975 prior to the negotiations to which he has referred? In the absence of the negotiated improvement, part of which is the basis of the document before us, what was the exposure of Irish Shipping Limited? Was it £20 million or £30 million? By exposure I mean potential losses.

Minister for Communications (Mr. J. Mitchell): Information on Jim Mitchell  Zoom on Jim Mitchell  That depends on the prevailing [940] tramp shipping rates, which are very cyclical. Indeed, because of the very cyclical nature of the shipping industry, not just for years but for decades, that makes the decision in this case all the more difficult to understand. If tramp shipping rates continue over the next three years at the rock bottom rate that existed a couple of months ago and which have only slightly improved since, the losses over that three year period could have been very extensive. I do not think it would be wise of me to put a particular figure on it. We are certainly talking in terms of somewhere between £50 million and £100 million.

Question put and agreed to.

Question proposed: “That section 2 stand part of the Bill”.

Mr. M. O'Toole: Information on Martin J. O'Toole  Zoom on Martin J. O'Toole  I thank the Minister for that information which puts the thing in proper context. With regard to remuneration in section 2, Senator Ferris mentioned the change that has been brought about. Had this practice not been followed in Irish Shipping? Is that the problem?

Mr. J. Mitchell: Information on Jim Mitchell  Zoom on Jim Mitchell  The position here is that this provision is fairly typical for most semi-State bodies. As legislation has been enacted over the past few years this type of provision has been made, and so as Bills arise for companies that have not got the provision we are just extending it to those companies.

Mr. M. O'Toole: Information on Martin J. O'Toole  Zoom on Martin J. O'Toole  There was no other reason?

Mr. J. Mitchell: Information on Jim Mitchell  Zoom on Jim Mitchell  No, there was no other reason.

Question put and agreed to.

Sections 3 and 4 agreed to.

Title agreed to.

Bill reported without amendment, [941] received for final consideration and passed.

An Cathaoirleach: Information on Patrick J. Reynolds  Zoom on Patrick J. Reynolds  Before I go on to the Adjournment perhaps the Acting Leader of the House might tell us when we are going to sit again?

Mr. Ferris: Information on Michael Ferris  Zoom on Michael Ferris  It is proposed to sit on Wednesday, 2 May, at 2.30 p.m.


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